Friday, January 27, 2012

Springfield joins regional commission in wood-chip plant review

Springfield will join the Southern Windsor County Regional Planning Commission in evaluating the proposed Winstanley wood-fired power plant proposed for North Springfield.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20120127/NEWS02/701279913

36 comments :

  1. Those of us who burn wood will have to pay higher prices. Loggers will get the same money just dropping log loads to the plant, why cut and split and deliver to individual homes?

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    1. I understand the concern you share, however, loggers are not the ones who actually end up selling wood. It usually is private individuals. I really do not think you have anything to worry about whatsoever.

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  2. Comments like the above are why residential taxes are so high. If people would stop and think, businesses pay taxes also. The more businesses the more the tax burden in shared amongst business and homeowners. I have heard that this plant would bring in approx. 1.2 to 1.6 million in tax revenue. With 1 penny on the tax rate generating approximately 65,000.00 thats alot of pennies. Jobs, tax revenue something good for Springfield after 30 years of business drought. But again this is not good enough for some.

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    1. The reason the taxes are so high is the fact that half the people in town don't pay any taxes. But they sure can vote for the things they want.This situation is only going to get worse. There are @ 175 homes in town for sale, mostly elderly trying to get away from these high taxes.

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    2. oh great so it's Easter Island to the left of me or the right of me depending on weather or not my neighbor can pay their taxes ??

      $ cash for your trees...

      we are getting sold a dirty bill of goods.

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  3. Agree 100% with the directly above comment!! Bring in the new businesses!! They WILL offset residential taxes, they WILL provide many needed jobs, they WILL help bring this town back to life!!

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    1. great low paying jobs. Than you so much.

      100 jobs +/- paying $2,000,000.00

      $2,000,000.00 / 100 = $20,000,00

      So according to #s reported in June of 2011

      that is an average of $20,000.00 per new job.

      not much going around...

      Except a thermal heat warpzone

      And N. Springield looses SO MUCH.



      http://vermontbiz.com/news/june/winstanley-file-cpg-woodchip-power-plant-north-springfield

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  4. Agree, we definitely need more business here.

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  5. Let's be honest.

    1.
    Please identify the Board Members of the
    Southern Windsor County Regional Planning Commission.

    Now tell us how many are or were former employees of the Town of Springfield and or S.O.M. or S.R.D.C.

    ooohhhh, MANY of them ARE or were and vica versa will be or actually became members or board members of the above named axis of evil. it's the same names again...

    conflicts of interest?, bad decisions ahead.

    2.
    I hear about 30 new jobs. 30 Low Paying Jobs. REALY LOW

    I hear about %150,000,000.00 construction cost.
    I wonder how many trees do you have to chip and burn to break even? did it say 40 trips a day?
    How about to pay managment's 401ks?
    How much to continue to keep state and municipal politician's as pets?
    Of course this comes out of money you pay them for now selling you electicity. probably more than cvpsc charges.

    So what does Springfield really get???

    Nothing. Escept completely SCREWED. when they are done they will tax you to import trees from Easter Island ((those, by the way, are even more expensive)).

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  6. Bob Forguites...

    $150,000,000.00 in 2012 is NOT EVEN CLOSE to the biggest project to be built in Springfield ever.

    Unless you were mis-quoted.. You should re-count. We have a vote of no confidence here.

    Can you re-think the value of the dollar, both in 2012 and previously in our town's past.

    Most of the larger operations in town would be BILLION $$ projects today.

    The income from the " Made in Springfield " companies when valued in TODAY'S $$ was BILLIONS AND BILLIONS

    Bob, call us. We can help, we budgeted for a calculator.

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  7. To all the critics of this project, do you have another 150,000,000 dollar project lined up that we haven't heard about? See a lot of negativity but no solutions. Put up or shut up

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  8. No, no must be negative, only programmed to be negative. These are the same fools that believe that the made in Springfield grear shaper business will return and rescue this town. Ostriches with heads buried and nay sayers.

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    1. errr..
      didn't the Gear Shaper Building get purchased as an endorsed / adopted S.R.D.C. and S.O.M. pocket project ??? don't those groups overlap with the Town of Springfield and SWCRPC. Didn't they do a terrible job in the environmental clean up there?

      and so many other projects too...

      Looking at all of their projects, they don't seem to need a new one.

      Quality not Quantity.



      who is bringing you a chipping facility ?

      Egads...........

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  9. "Kischko, who is an engineer...said the plant would require 13,000 trips a year, roughly 40 trips a day.

    Ahhhh, the sweet sight and sound of 40 trucks a day...

    Kind of reminds you of the glory days when Idlenot Dairy was booming and trucks were in and outbound from the dairy at rates even higher than that. And remember how people complained about it? Oh, wait a second, nobody complained. They actually enjoyed the economic benefits of it!

    But remember folks, "Kischko" is an "engineer"! So what? How is that even germaine to the discussion, except for the purposes of inflating Mr. Kischko's ego? Quick, everyone, bow at Mr. Kischko's illustrious engineer feet.

    "He said his research showed that a wood-chip plant would adversely affect property values, on average 7 to 9 percent, if they are within a mile or two of the plant."

    Earth to vaunted engineer Mr. Kischko, you already live in SPRINGFIELD, where some 175 homes are already on the market and not sellling and home prices could hardly be depressed any more than they already are.

    And once again, another free enterprise initiative shall likely become paralyzed thanks to the NOT IN MY BACKYARDERS! Here's a suggestion to the NIMBYs, make a bid on the land yourselves if you don't like how it's to be used!

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    1. yeah right.. "make a bid on the land yourselves"
      I see the SWCRPC and SOM and SRDC helping everybody make that possible.

      individualy that's like pi$$ing in the wind.

      They have an agenda and are actually out there preventing people from doing that.

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  10. Kischko..has also filed for intervenor status. Conflict of interest. An agenda of his own I believe. Let's see. Industrial park. Industry. Guess the industrial park.is as good as any place.

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    1. Good for Kischko. You should keep an eye out for errors you make when assuming a large scale biomass facility is properly suited for a small Vermont town Industrial park.

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  11. Hmm. The old gear shaper building once vacant with broken Windows and a condemned bridge. Once again a viable piece of property. Still not good enough for some. Guess some things never will be. Anyone put a bid on park street school yet? Oh yeah, the school board doesn't have to listen to the voters. They must be a higher class of citizen.

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    1. "viable"

      is a stretch for Jan 28th 2012

      Sometimes.. the ends don't justify the means.

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  12. Yeah. Some things never happen fast enough for some. Then when it does happen they complain. I'm sure there are other towns that could use your knowledge. Maybe you could move there.

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    1. what a joke.

      put the chipping plant elsewhere.

      nice try, slick.

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  13. It doesn't matter what the article is about. You get the same moan and groan crowd complaining about virtually everything in this town.

    Here's two thoughts.

    A/ Run for the Select Board or shut up.

    B/ Better yet, move someplace else and let the people who believe in Springfield do their job.

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    1. you are funny. I believe in N. Springfield.
      I love N. Springfield
      I live here and am not moving.
      I don't believe in the science and environmental cost of a wood chip plant.
      And certainly I know which way the wind blows and where you want to put your plant is too close to me.
      Stop spinning the truth
      those who believes in Springfield DON'T want a wood chip plant here @ home.
      You should stop asking us who live in N. Springfield to move so you can build a wood chip burning facility. Stop making us look like the wrong doers.
      by the way "moan and groan" .. sounds like the beginning of change to me.

      Oh yeah...... After you disagree, and get what you want. We can look back and see where I was on this at this time.

      45+ years in N. Springfield.
      Amen

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    2. Sorry, youngster, I've got you beat. 59 years in N. Springfield and I think you're wrong. The town needs jobs and unless you're planning on starting a new company, I'd say you're holding up progress by complaining.

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    3. so you are retired too !
      hahaha.
      did you read the above ?
      a copied it for you so you can read it again.
      great low paying jobs. Than you so much.

      100 jobs +/- paying $2,000,000.00

      $2,000,000.00 / 100 = $20,000,00

      So according to #s reported in June of 2011

      that is an average of $20,000.00 per new job.

      not much going around...

      Except a thermal heat warpzone

      And N. Springield looses SO MUCH.



      http://vermontbiz.com/news/june/winstanley-file-cpg-woodchip-power-plant-north-springfield

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    4. Aww and now come the nimby's. The not in my back yarders. Hmm. Industry in an industrial park. Go figure.

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    5. this is like a game of public relations poker.

      more spin !!

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  14. Didn't Winstanley have something to do with the exit #1 industrial park?
    Any one ever been there ?

    Any one ever been allowed inside the Country Kitchen ?

    Pretty disgusting in there.

    Oh yeah, truth about Country Kitchen is they have a few owners and a couple upper managment making huge dollars and nobody else making good money. Country Kithen uses people. This is one of the lowest paying companies offering almost nothing to the local comunity. Famous for, hiring out of state temp workers, and internal problems with quality. Oh yeah by the way Lepage bakeries owners of Country Kitchen are from Maine. Winstanley is from Concord Ma.

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    1. re: "nobody else making good money"

      Nobody owes you anything in this world. Low wages are the net result of a little education, no job skills, short term work history, and being just plain stupid. So hit the road if you don't like it. Ten more just like you waiting to start.

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    2. Thank you very much for pointing out why we don't want this kind of thing In N. Springfield.

      Glad to see you show your true colors and opinion of my neighbors.
      who are you anyway. Are you even from N.Springfield

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  15. What in the Hell does winstanley have to do with it? Besides being in the same industrial park.

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  16. The project has been in the planning stages for several years, and was first announced to the public in February, 2009. First announced in 2009, the NSSEP is expected to create more than 600 jobs during its 18 month construction period, 400 of which will be in the two county regions of Windsor and Windham counties. After the plant is commissioned in 2014, it will contribute to some 160 ongoing jobs in Vermont, with a payroll of nearly $9 million annually. State tax revenues are estimated at approximately $4 million during construction and approximately $3 million per year from 2014 on. Approximately $15 million is expected in annual wood purchases from local foresters, roughly two-thirds of which would to come from Vermont sources, and the Town of Springfield expects approximately $2 million in net annual increases to its budgeted revenues.

    A key element of this project that separates it from virtually all other commercial scale renewable energy projects in Vermont is NSSEP's plan to utilize the plant's thermal waste to provide low cost heat to the North Springfield Industrial Park tenants though a "thermal loop". In keeping with Winstanley Enterprises' long-term strategic commitment to Vermont, NSSEP intends to provide below-market heat to users in the park to retain current tenants and to promote additional development.

    "Today's CPG announcement is the culmination of a lot of people's hard work," Winstanley said. "I am convinced that this project, which will bring clean power and green jobs to the Springfield area, will be a real boon to the economy in this region and a real asset to Springfield, Windsor County and the State of Vermont. This project makes sense for all of the right reasons, and we are pleased with the support we have gotten from the Springfield community." The project will take approximately a year and a half to construct after permits are obtained. It is expected that the plant would be commissioned in the middle or last half of 2014.

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  17. I just LOVE how they call this a "wood-chip" plant. Do a little research, people! Google, Youtube... heck, even tons of scholarly journals out there dispel what Winstanley and his crew (a.k.a. the hired public relations people who are paid to fool us!!) are leading Springfield residents to believe. Make sure what you are reading is current, though, because that’s where you’ll find all the data about how unhealthy biomass is – EVEN WHEN USING CLEAN WOOD CHIPS! The tons of chemicals that have been proven to cause CANCER, among other serious health issues, will spew from this 140 foot tall incinerator and will not be filtered out. Even the newest technologies cannot filter out fine particulates! Biomass is not “green”, it is NOT efficient, it is NOT sustainable, and it is NOT what our town needs. Educate yourselves...

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