Wednesday, January 7, 2015

Repairs to Community Center look to be 'significant'

It's going to cost real money to fix the foundation problems at the Springfield Community Center.
http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20150107/NEWS02/701079875

28 comments :

  1. It seems as though the town waits until there is a crisis before addressing problems. The building doesn't crumble over night, this is years of erosion. Most people don't wait until their homes are ready to fall down before they make repairs they "maintain" them. It is really hard to understand how this continually goes on within Springfield. Doesn't any one learn from the past?

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    1. But, at least the budget always passes.

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  2. Sounds like it's time to put this building to rest. The town can move the rec center and senior center to Park Street School. The retaining wall down to the back parking area is in very sorry shape at the Community Center too...Extra parking is always needed downtown, and there is better parking for those programs at Park Street.

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    1. Great plan there, moving from one decaying relic to another. Yeah, that'll work!

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    2. No, no, no, 11:51: Repair one relic instead of two. Raze the other for parking. Sold!

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    3. Demolish them both and return the grounds to the private sector where they can at least generate a positive cash flow for the town. Springfield can't afford these money pits!

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    4. 11:02 How do you figure they will generate positive cash flow? Have you taken a look around? Nobody is coming in and fixing the messes that the springfieldites created. What fantasy are you living in? It must be the same one that the select board is living in thinking that anyone is in the market for a building lot in springfield where the houses the razed once sat. Common sense says that anyone willing to build a house sure as hell isn't building it on a small lot in springfield. What private sector do you think is going to swoop in and take over the school and bring money to the town? Hmmm just like the rec center right? They went non-profit and don't pay taxes. Or are you talking about the Great Hall building which still is 50 percent unoccupied and unleased? Oh wait that was such a wonderful idea it cleared out dozens of commercial spaces all over town which now sit empty because the occupants moved to the "new" building. All that was accomplished was to trade one derelict building with 20 others that the private sector now cant fill thus creating a deficit in funds.

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  3. maybe the town should have thought about "maintaining" their properties instead of spending over 100k hiring more town employees on. Yet again we do seem to employ the village idiots so I guess why not!

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    1. and who are the village idiots??

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    2. chuck gregory1/11/15, 6:02 PM

      Town employees are regarded by the dimwitted as "village idiots" right up until it's time for the plows to be on the road. Then all of a sudden, those dimwits are cheering their presence.

      They're treated like Kipling's "Tommy Atkins": "When I'm one for darts and lager [in the pub], it's 'Chuck 'im out, the brute!"/ But it's " 'ero of 'is country!" when the guns begin to shoot."

      It's sad to live in a place where people don't appreciate those whose knowledge, skills, dedication and (often very hard) physical labor keep it livable.

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    3. EVERYBODY. If all were to gather and not tolerate anything else, it wouldn't evolve. We as a whole allow this. The ones who sit back and aren't involved are the ones griping the most. POWER of the PEOPLE? Where are the all of the backbones...oh, they have all expired and we now have a dumb generation/society. Allow the "man" to make the decisions it's much easier.

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    4. And who is the town.......US!

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    5. RE: The ones who sit back and aren't involved are the ones griping the most.

      Don't confuse "sitting back" with working oneself to the bone to maintain a decent standard of living while still being able to afford the ridiculously high taxes levied by this town and state. That they choose to "involve" themselves in making a decent living is the truest example of the POWER of the PEOPLE and, much to your chagrin, entitles them to voice their criticisms and concerns over the sad governance of Springfield...

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    6. Amen 9:35 PM, and a most sincere thank you for so accurate articulating the sentiments of us that financially fuel this fetid, rat hole that increasing caters to parasites that contribute NOTHING to sustaining their selfish lifestyle.

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    7. Your right, my comment came short of the point I was attempting to make. "US" working class societies ultimately have only one other option, that only option requires backbone and a sizeable concentration of equal minds to live not under any such laws that require us to settle for such slave order. "WE", "US", pay $12,000 a year in taxes for you to make the decisions, and no one is really happy about it.

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  4. Since the town feels compelled to tear down properties that they don't own and LOVE doing that, as if the town has the fund to continue. Now, the residents can turn that same "law/ordinance" on the town. I for one would love to join a group of residents to sue the town for having an unsafe PUBLIC building, which has housed many many children for programs and put them in harms way. HMMM there is an IDEA! That building should have been condemned 15 years ago. Let it go springfield and quit throwing good money over bad...after 100k plus in "rebuilding" it is still going to be a failing rotting bulding whose life has long since past. I don't know why this comes as a surprise to anyone. My god the windows throughout the building are rotting off..take a look upstairs. I hope they had the sense to close it completely for ALL events because it is unsafe for children to be in especially one or two floors above failing supports. CAN YOU SAT LEGAL LIABILITY?

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  5. Crises help sell budget increases. Springfield has been served by a cast of characters who have been derelict in their duties, particularly the succession of lethargic, "caretaker" town managers and select boards who have allowed the town to slide into a perpetual state of disrepair.

    And now the town has seen fit to send one of those "caretakers" to the state legislature, where he will continue to contribute to the town's embarrassment.

    Springfield is a win-lose town. It "wins" a new "wreck center" and then grants it tax relief. The irony is that those tax revenues could have contributed to funding the maintenance of the Community Center.

    Springfield - The town that wants it all - But instead has hit the proverbial brick wall.

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  6. The open house for Mr. Forguites should be held at the Community Center so that both he and those who deem him worthy of honor can inspect some of the rot that he has wrought. Use of The Great Hall should be reserved for great men!

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  7. maybe if the director of the community center spent as much time at the center taking care of business,as he does at the high school visiting,the building wouldn't be in such bad shape

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    1. amen to that...and driving around in his truck babying the softball field

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  8. Rip it down, turn it into a park

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  9. Get the Springfield Regional Development Corporation involved, they know how to get money from the government. Look at all the money they have wasted on the "Great Hall"...just so that pictures can be displayed that the average person could care less about. Also all the money they are getting to clean up the J&L and Bryants mess is coming from the governments deep pockets. The tax payer puts the money in and the SRDC takes it out for their own personal use.

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  10. The community center didn't deteriorate overnight or over the last few years. I wonder why town and school owned buildings were not better maintained during Springfield's "hey" days. Unfortunately todays' citizens are left with cleaning up a mess left by our short sighted "powers that be/were." I also hope that the opinions expressed in this forum find their way to not only the Select Board but the School Board as well.

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  11. Now that we are all fired up. Lets make it known what we want our money spent on. No more bandaids. Remember they work for us not the other way around. We are the paying customers and the customer is always right. Call or email the Select/School Board.

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  12. Keep bringing in non-profit organizations and suffer the consequences. All the owners and staff of these organizations live high on the hog yet they don't pay a cent in taxes.

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  13. I agree with the tenor of all of the comments here; thanks to a succession of short sighted town officials who who have had a "let's live for today" method of governing, we find ourselves in a real bind with little public money to deal with problems that should have been addressed years ago. I agree with some of the commenters above that the best solution would be to tear the building down and create additional parking for the downtown area. Any other "development solution" is not realistic financially at the current time.

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    1. like theres a lot going on down town..

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  14. Springfield is a poor town. It cannot have its cake and eat it to. Before one dime is spent on repairs to the ancient community center building or a replacement for it, the town should restore its basic infrastructure (roads, sidewalks, bridges, schools) and provide for police and fire services.

    This town and its little bands of "we-can-have-it-all-hobbits" needs to quit pursuing superfluous window dressing and start focusing resources on the essential needs of the town.

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