Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Winstanley Offers Free Heat To N. Springfield Homes

Winstanley is offering to residents 5 million BTUs per hour for home heating and hot water during the heating season. http://www.vermontjournal.com/content/winstanley-offers-free-heat-n-springfield-homes

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  1. Could we please get them to locate the plant in Springfield, if N. Springfield doesn't want them, we would welcome the hot water.

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  2. Aethelred the Unready4/26/12, 1:03 PM

    Rather than fighting the BioMass in N. Springfield, we should be investigating whether there isn't a site in Springfield that could be adapted for this use and see if we could get a second plant set up for Springfield.

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  3. Projects like this do not belong in residential areas. They should be placed in areas like the Northeast Kingdom where there are miles of wilderness between communities and there could be truck access directly off the Interstate.
    A study by the U.S. Dept. of Energy’s National Renewable Energy Laboratory. reviewed biomass plants including the McNeil plant in Burlington. The McNeil plant was the first fully wood-fired biomass plant in the U.S. and has been updated during the course of its 30 years existence. NERL found that, "The primary lesson learned from the McNeil plant experience in Burlington, Vermont is careful attention to the siting of a biomass-fueled plant. Siting the plant in a residential neighborhood of a small city has caused a number of problems and extra expenses over the years: a permit requirement to use trains for fuel supply, high taxes, high labor rates, local political involvement, and neighborhood complaints about odors and noise.”

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    1. I didn't see anything in your reasons for not siting a biomass plant in a residential neighborhood that should be of any concern to a resident. Developers maybe, but what do you care about taxes on a biomass plant or labor rates. Truck traffic shouldn't matter because it will be located in an industrial park and if the park was booming with other businesses you would still have traffic.

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    2. Aethelred the Unready4/27/12, 12:01 PM

      NIMBY's are almost a prevalent in the Northeast Kingdom as elsewheres. Its interesting that we sometimes become a little bipolar in our thinking. First we criticize projects for being in relatively wild rural areas, then we critize projects for being located in industrial parks. Its truly a surreal world we are living in. It seems like it makes sense for each community to be developing alternative power sources, rather than having energy wastage and high power line transmissions going from semi-wilderness areas to more populated areas.

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  4. Its hardly seems appropriate to compare either Springfield or N. Springfield to Burlington. Both are small former mill towns, and they have sited the plant in an industrial park. The argument that we are in a dense residential area here is absolutely bogus.

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  5. God forbid we have industry in our industrial park.

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    1. Aethelred the Unready4/27/12, 2:12 PM

      No we need to build industry out in the middle of forests didn't you get the memo?

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  6. The NIMBYs, now realizing their mistake for owning or purchase property on the perimeter of a sleepy industrial park of a down-on-its-luck town, are flailing about for any reason that might stave off location of this needed plant.

    The air will be polluted. Nope, today's plants burn very cleanly and discharge mostly steam.

    The water will be polluted. No again. Runoff can be effectively controlled to meet all currently environmental standards.

    The water will be depleted. Doesn't look that way, does it?

    The trees will be depleted and deforestation will occur. Ever seen pictures of Vermont 100-125 years ago when working farms dominated the landscape and pastures exceeded the forests? Trees are a renewable resource and the private property owners should be free to sell their forest produce as they please. I know, that upsets the NIMBYs who have "enjoyed" their neighbors' scenic forestlands all these years without having to pay a dime of tax for the privilege. And now they want to infringe on their neighbors' own private property rights.

    There will be too much truck traffic. That's what roads are for and that's why truckers pay taxes, too - for the right to use those PUBLIC roads (like Idlenot Dairy did back in the days when they sent hundreds of trucks rolling through town on a daily basis).

    It will be unsightly. Well, that is an industrial park that you're living nextdoor to. Did you think they were going to make it into a nature preserve???

    They're trying to bribe people with free hot water. That's their perogative as a private enterprise. Sorry if your "central committee" objects to them exercising their liberties.

    It's time to quit listening to these "one-percenter" NIMBYs and get behind real growth and real economic development for Springfield!

    Biomass all the way!

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    1. Aethelred the Unready4/27/12, 12:04 PM

      Yes, who would have thought that someone would have been audacious enough to locate industry in an industrial park instead of in the middle of a forest.

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    2. Look at Winstanley's own information on the pollutants, and then tell people with a straight face that the plant will be clean burning and emit only steam.

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    3. Aethelred the Unready4/27/12, 2:25 PM

      Yes, this is a clean industry. I have no looked into the face of Anonymous and said it!

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    4. chuck gregory4/28/12, 6:26 PM

      How much wood can be removed from a forest before it cannot renew itself? I once heard it was 5%. If that's the case, if we multiply the acres of biomass used to feed the generator in N. Springfield by 20 and come up with a total less than the acreage of all the forests intended to supply the plant, then it is a sustainable project. Anybody know the numbers?

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    5. It takes 250 years for a forest to renew itself with all the attendant mini-biospheres which are indicitave of a 'True' forest. These jokes that paper/pulp companies profess to re-plant are nothing more than lawns that haven't been mowed for 20 years.

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    6. chuck gregory4/29/12, 7:28 AM

      Which would make those forests monocultures, i.e., recipes for disaster...

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  7. Anonymous 11:19, recommend that you consider property in Afghanistan. Completely free of industrial parks and other "pollutants". Enjoy!

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  8. I'd post a longer comment, but my fossil fuel burning plane arrived to carry me to my fossil fuel burning car to drive me to my fossil fuel heated house located in a town which once built polluting machine tools that helped enable the creation of all those fossil fuel burning products!!!! But now produces nothing but whining!!!

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