Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Wood chip developer answers criticism

The developers of the proposed North Springfield Sustainable Energy Project, a 37-megawatt biomass plant, took issue with statements by a group critical of biomass plants that the project was “neither clean nor green.”
http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20120925/NEWS02/709259914

35 comments :

  1. Blaaah blaah blaah. Golly a paid corporate shill cries. Boo hoo!

    HEAD TO HEAD COMPARISON - POUNDS OF POLLUTION PRODUCED PER MEGAWATT HOUR OF ENERGY PRODUCED

    Coal vs. Winstanley Biomass Power (Springfield, VT)
    (Sources: U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Clean Air Markets, VT Agency of Natural Resources)

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/82596382/Mt-Tom-Coal-Plant-vs-Springfield-Biomass-Power

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  2. 1. Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas and the main driver of global climate change. (EPA)

    2. Carbon Monoxide can cause fatigue, chest pain, impaired vision and coordination; headaches; dizziness;confusion; nausea; angina, impaired vision, and reduced brain function; death. (EPA)

    3. Particulate Matter can cause decreased lung function; aggravated asthma; chronic bronchitis;irregular heartbeat; nonfatal heart attacks; premature death in people with heart or lung disease. (EPA)

    4. Nitrogen Oxides can cause adverse respiratory effects including airway inflammation in healthypeople and increased respiratory symptoms in people with asthma. (EPA)

    5. Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC) can cause eye, nose, and throat irritation; headaches, loss of coordination, nausea; damage to liver, kidney, and central nervous system; cancer. (EPA)

    6. Ammonia can cause coughing, nose and throat irritation, burning of the eyes, nose, throat andrespiratory tract and can result in blindness, lung damage or death. (NY Department of Health)

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    1. Burlington is now a barren wasteland and currently in a health crisis because of their biomass plant.

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    2. Cough, cough, cough. The McNeil biomass plant in Burlington, Vermont is the number one pollution source in the state, emitting 79 classified pollutants. Biomass burning releases dioxins and as much particulates as coal burning.

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    3. "Ingold said that was categorically untrue, and that other energy industries receive very heavy taxpayer subsidies, including the coal, oil and nuclear industries, while alternative energy, such as biomass, receives only a small amount of federal help."

      BALONEY!

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    4. Living can cause death.

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    5. Aethelred the Unready9/25/12, 12:02 PM

      If Burlington is a barren wasteland -- please curse us so we can upgrade to a barren wasteland.

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    6. Agreed, maybe the entrance to the industrial park can be our own Church Street/Precision Drive, who wants to go to Ri Ra's!? Sign us up for copying Burlington, the wealthy and healthy Vermonters!

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    7. You are totally ignorant and it shows. You should not speak too often.

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    8. That comment at 1:35 is for comment of 1:09. If you be quiet no one will know your level of ignorance.

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    9. 1:35/1:36 I would not invite you to go to Ri Ra's with me. Be nice and we will see about giving you a chance in the future.

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  3. Mass has instituted tigher restrictions on biomass Because they have seen the writing on the wall. Developers leave mass for greener pastures (and more trees). They eye vermont. land and labor is cheap. You believe people who tried to pass off a plan that would dry up the town of their water supply--simply because they did not bother to investigate available resources--why--they don't care about your resources--only cheap labor.

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    1. Aethelred the Unready9/25/12, 5:22 PM

      And then these same people will sit around and complain when their water rates go up because we have a massive over-capacity and declining usage in Springfield. Yep, let's try and kill these projects so we can pay more for water and taxes.

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    2. What's a little poison for the residents to breathe and swallow while the non-resident profiteers leave town with truckloads of money. If only there was a pattern here.......

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  4. Isn't Dan Ingold the engineer who figured his company could take 750,000 gallons from the town water supply every day to run his plant until residents of North Springfield challenged him and he backed down?

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    1. Aethelred the Unready9/25/12, 5:23 PM

      The problem with redesigning projects to try and placate NIMBYs like NOSAG is that when you do that, you get hit with comments like this.

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    2. And corporate shills make comments like yours while you help promote an environmental nightmare many states and municipalities are now banning or refusing to pony up the tax incentives that this plant can't be built and operated without contrary to what Mr. Ingold is portraying......Heck, they are even seeking tax payer funds to improve the road situation that operating the plant would create.

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    3. Aethelred the Unready9/26/12, 12:51 PM

      The road situation needs to be improved regardless. What we have is a bad industrial entrance road and if we ever get back up to the traffic industry once produced in this town we need to fix that road. We should be glad that we have an industry which is triggering the road improvement, not complaining about it.

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    4. What would the rest of us do without your continuing stream of unbiased comments? Thank you corporate shill for setting us right again. So that makes it OK to mislead the public about the amount of public monies involved in this boondoggle and the amount of pollution this plant will pump out?

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    5. Aethelred the Unready9/26/12, 3:44 PM

      Well, it looks like NOSAG is doing a pretty good job of misleading people about both items. Not sure why I am a "corporate shill" for pointing out that the road needs to be improved if we are to get anymore industry in the industrial park, and grants to get such road improvements are nearly always tied to industrial developments. To smear a project because it is the one that opens the door to getting the needed road improvement grant seems a bit unfair at best, malicious at worst.

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    6. @ Axelrod....

      "shill" yes. but even better said it's

      "Douche Bag"

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    7. Agreed axle grease. Help me out here.....is it true that Bob Flint's fee for promoting the latest boondoggle, where the tax payers pay and pay, is only 30 pieces of silver for each boondoggle?

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    8. NO !!!
      it's 30 pieces of Dan Ingold

      GOLD !!!!

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    9. Aethelred the Unready9/27/12, 1:51 PM

      The point is that the road being or not being fixed by a grant is a non-issue. The road needs to be fixed. If we want to fight about an industry that uses wood to generate electricity, fine. But the road needs to be fixed regardless, and we are not going to get it fixed without a live industrial development project.

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    10. Well now Axlehead, its against Springfield traditions to put industry in industrial parks, it just doesn't make sense. What we need to do is scattered industry alongside the rivers, etc. So you see it makes sense to keep that entrance road to the industrial park screwed up. If we can just stop this developer who keeps trying to placate NOSAG from coming into North Springfield we should be able to keep that industrial park nice and empty. That should help maintain the Towns overall ambience.

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  5. What about the eagles at Stoughton pond, and migrating shad in the Conn River, and birds hit by wind turbines, and off shore drilling, and oil spills and Inuit displaced from flooded home lands, and open pit mines and hydrofracking, and the Keystone pipeline?

    It's all Obama's fault! I want to go protest somewhere, but can't afford $4/gal gas.

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  6. In America today you can Murder the land for private profit. You can leave the corpse for all to see, and no buddy calls the cops. Paul Brooks 1971 - The Pursuit of Wilderness.

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  7. Ask yourself if the plant can only get the chips to the plant using tractor trailers that get 6-7 mpg and use say 200,000 gallons a year in just fuel usage - remember this plant is around for 50 years what will the electricity really cost when diesel gets to say $8 or 9 per gallon - how does that offset the use of fossil fuels? These plants make no sense to anyone except the developer.

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  8. It's sad to see that people in North Springfield who are working hard to understand what a biomass plant will really mean for our town and who are questioning the developer, are taking flak. Perhaps the person who questioned our motives does not live here? It's hard to imagine that every person in town who cares about Springfield would not want a full study of the facts. People in North Springfield,including NoSag and many others, care our community, our environment, our State and the health and safety of everyone in it. We also care about all the good neighbor businesses that are here and we want even more to come to town. I wonder if those who throw around the worn-out term "NIMBY" have read any of the studies on biomass pollution? I wonder if they attended the talk by Dr. Ted Marcy, lung specialist from UVM who come down to speak to the community. I would encourage the person who made the NIMBY remark to stop whining and maybe he can try and find a pulmonologist or a representative from the American Lung Association or the American Cancer Society, or the American Heart Association to come and give a lecture on biomass power and public health? If being a NIMBY means caring about Springfield---the health of its citizens, the environment and our quality of life and yes, our image, then sign me up!

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  9. It's horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the enviroment. Ansel Adams

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    1. It surely is. We need to make sure that industrial park stays nice and empty. I think perhaps we could plant it to wildflowers.

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    2. If I had to guess, poppie flowers would bring more revenue around here. Or atleast, if not guessing.. this blogspot tells me so..

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  10. I ask mr Bogg Hog and Mr Apple Bosom to visit a power plant and ask yourself "man this is cool stuff" breathing in the clean plant emissions and watching the 120 to 240 tractor trailer trucks go by every day for the next 50 years. This is as good as it gets. Forget the fact we had industry even a ice cream plant where did thy go? ask the town fathers maybe the inventory tax had a part in loosing the industry or Mr. Goldmann and I guess we can now be so proud of Springdield with a prison on one end of town and the potential of a really cool power plant on the other. What progress we have made! Whelome to the new industry to the park!

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    1. Seriously ? The rest of the world is moving forward and we can all see this.

      ONLY and perhaps literally ONLY Springfield Vt 05156 is doing so poorly.

      The reason is because of its geographical proximity to the rest of the Vermont Towns, the other United states, and the lack of competent ADULT / SENIOR municipal managment that sticks to 05156 like it's some kind of Bermuda Triangle for morons who think they can make it as politician's in a smaller state where the residents are stupid.

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