Sunday, March 17, 2013

Leahy not optimistic about future of gun control bill

Sen. Patrick Leahy, accompanied by his wife Marcelle — and entourage of bodyguards — were on a swing through southeastern Vermont, spending a night at Springfield’s venerable Hartness House Inn.

http://rutlandherald.com/article/20130317/NEWS01/703179930

38 comments :

  1. Finally, Leahy has done something for Springfield by throwing a bone (on his official USG travel account, mind you) to the Hartness House.

    Otherwise, this buffoon continues to be just another liberal rube taking the US down the drain!

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  2. And wifey stays for free, on the "official" government dole! Ah, it's good to get about and mingle with the little people!

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  3. Leahy has been in Washington so long and has become so beholding to party politics, he has lost all sight of his constituents.

    The statement, "we give deer a chance." illustrates how Leahy thinks we're too stupid to understand the second amendment has nothing to do with deer hunting. Additionally, his "common sense" approach to banning firearms is in error. FBI crime statistics bore out the assault weapon ban did nothing to decrease crime. Yet as Committee Chair, he voted the party line and not with the facts. Is any more proof of partisan politics needed?

    I'm ashamed you're my Senator.

    Annon because Leahy would have HLS arrest me as a domestic terrorist.

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  4. What I miss in the story is how he was in the area to hear the opinions and feelings of his constituents. Of course to do that we would have to know he's going to be in the area wouldn't we. Instead he rolls in telling us his opinion, which of course is our opinion according to him.

    Anonymous 12:23 a bit of advice if you don't mind. Facts are something Chuckles majors in so until he can get back to us with twelve paragraphs of supporting facts we can't take your "facts" on gun bans as truth. Sorry but the facts are the facts.

    According to Chuckles I'm done, but I'm not really. Seems Chuckles side kicks (or other posting names) of Aplin Jack, Aelethred the Unready, Boss Hogg, etc have all hit the bench. Must be I had my facts right on that.

    Chuck, I was born on the Left side of the road and found my way to the middle. I encourage you to do the same.

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    1. chuck gregory3/18/13, 6:10 PM

      Harry Byrd, the middle is not where "He who dies with the most toys, wins."

      The middle is where government protects and empowers its citizens.

      The middle is where people accept that nobody's perfect and that nobody possesses the faculty of flawless judgment of others' character.

      The middle is where people recognize, accept and encourage the development of others' potential.

      The middle is where people forego carping and take pride in developing solutions to the situations that make them want to complain.

      The middle is where those to whom much has been given yield proportionately as much in return.

      The middle is where people know that taxes are necessary for good infrastructure and inequitable taxation is an evil.

      Let me know when you get here.

      We're having a great time here in the middle. It must be because so many of them are under 40.

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    2. For once I agree with you the middle is a good place to be.
      However I disagree with your idea of the middle. You are way off center in most cases.
      When I say off center I mean way on the liberal side. Try coming to the real middle.
      I lost most of the respect I had for your opinions late last week when you made some bad comments that were in very poor taste.
      You can do better than this. Just show me why I used to respect you. I know you have it in you.

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    3. chuck gregory3/19/13, 7:39 AM

      What's your idea of the middle?

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    4. Chucky, as a history teacher once said to me "If I find out where you copied this from you're getting an F not an A on this paper". If the government is needed to empower and in your world it is, then the middle is only in your sights not gained. Empower yourself within the laws created by government would be a much better statement.

      Taxes for infrastructure are good, inequitable taxation is and was created by government. We've been over this one a few times. Unfortunately along the way all politicians found a way to waste money. I believe it is called pork barrel spending. Of course with America being the land of opportunist plenty stood in line with their hand out gathering all they could get. This lead to the need for more waste. More waste created the need for more taxes. Ah the circle of life in government. It seems to me you are among those with a hand extended straight out and palm up. That is not infrastructure spending.

      While you didn’t bring this up I will. The middle also is a place that believes being poor in not a lifelong condition. Do the poor need our assistance? Yes. Should the poor depend on us to help them up? Yes. Should the poor look to government to create a class that survives only off taxpayer’s dollars? Dollars that provide housing, food, transportation (and not on your six dollar bus), medical care, phones, etc. All with no expectations of the recipients? No.

      As far as having the most toys to declare a winner, bad news. In the end we all lose.

      Thanks for waving to me last Saturday during your protest on the corner of Valley Street. I was on my way to spend some of my hard earned money at the Shell station. You know where the government keeps adding tax to the evil oil company’s sales to us “poor folk” that are waiting to be empowered.

      Stupid mind games people play.

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    5. chuck gregory3/19/13, 12:45 PM

      Thanks for the compliment in sentence #1, Harry Byrd. And if you feel like supporting the troops, join in the Saturday morning peace vigil, 10-11 every week, weather permitting.

      I feel for your pain in the extra $15 per year in gas taxes.

      You ought to realize that being poor IS a lifelong condition without government help. Ninety-five percent of everybody in European cities lived like this during the American Revolution:

      "East London was a warren of shacks, decaying tenements, and brand-new hovels run up on short leases by jerry-builders restrained by no local ordinances. Georgian residential solidity stopped at the lower fringe of the middle class. The “rookeries” of the poor formed a labyrinth. . . the worst slum areas in the mid-eighteenth century lay around Covent Garden, St. Giles, Holborn, and the older parts of Westminster…the Jewish ghettos of Stepney and Whitechapel… the brick canyons of Southwark . . . Their courts and alleys were dark, tangled, narrow and choked with offal. Because men had to live near their work, tenements stood cheek by jowl with slaughterhouses and tanneries. London was judged the greatest city in the world, but also the worst smelling. Sewers still ran into open drains, the largest of these, until it was finally covered in 1765, was the Fleet Ditch. Armies of rats rose from the tenement cellars to go foraging in daylight." (Source: Chapter 2 of "The Fatal Shore.")

      And as immigrants were recruited to flood America in the Guilded Age, the same thing happened here in the major Northern cities-- for all of their lives. You might want to brush up on your Jacob Riis to see what life was like in New York City at the time.

      Because it is possible-- and in these days even likely-- to have the poor sink even lower, this is why Democrats believe the role of government is to protect and empower people.

      If you will not do what is necessary to help the children escape from what their parents are showing them is "normal," you are an accomplice in the crippling of the future of America. We need to take the initiative in giving them a chance to learn there is a whole different world out there, and depriving them of government assistance in food, shelter and education simply doesn't do it.

      (Why do people focus on the pennies wasted on some impoverished weaselers and let the big-time weasels go scot free? Florida's governor Rick Perry oversaw an $84 billion Medicare scam committed by his hospital corporation-- and he then got elected. But no! We love to focus on some two-bit druggie who needs to be denied $27 a month in food stamps.)


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  5. Sen. Leahy has represented Vermont residents well. I don't think he's pushed aside any line of thought indiscriminately. His calmness and reason allows him to fairly represent a larger contingent of the Vermont populace than any other person I can think of. I disagree with him on multiple issues, but at least, I'm sure he considers my opinions.

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  6. You must be confusing "calmness and reason" with "sleep and lethargy". He's a hack and has been from day one. The sooner we get him off the dole the better of will be the state and nation - assuming the nation survives the massive debt load that, through his "calmness and reason", he has so adeptly contributed to. Oh, how he resembles the Democrat's party icon!

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  7. chuck gregory3/19/13, 4:20 PM

    Begging your pardon, 1:39, but Patrick Leahy is from the old school of Vermont Senators-- able to balance principle against opportunism (e.g., George Aiken saw the value of having I-91 laid out on the Vermont side of the river-- right through his birthplace).

    He got his start as the State's Attorney who recognized paid undercover informer Paul Lawrence for what he was-- a fraud whose testimony was putting innocent people in jail and ruining their lives. He is one of the financially poorest Senators-- not even worth $1 million in what is regarded as the most exclusive millionaire's club in the US.

    If he has one flaw, it is that he believes Republicans are like him in wishing the best for the country. On the Judiciary Committee, he has always allowed them far more latitude than they have ever allowed him, with the result that when they are the majority, they appoint bad judges and when he is the chairman, they obstruct the process so badly (because he and the Democrats do indeed support candidates who are good for the country) that they have created in the last four years a recognized crisis in the Federal judiciary. I don't think he's going to be any less courteous to them this time around-- and the judiciary crisis is just going to get worse.

    If you could provide some data as to what makes him a "hack," it would be appreciated, but I don't think you can.

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  8. Chuckie, you've conveniently provided all the evidence that's needed to portray him as the lifetime political hack that he is (sometimes you are either just too naive), growing fat and bald on the government dole these many years while voting for one debt increasing federal budget after another and letting Vermont and Vermonters wither and die on the vine. To compare this guy to George Aiken is to insult the memory of a truly great statesman.

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  9. When I research his net wealth it comes in at around 130,000.
    Now for a guy who doesn't pay to travel, gets paid housing in DC, meals, Per diem, free health care for the whole family and a large pension he is spending his money like a true democrat. Not saving a dime or putting away for the future.
    That's right his future is paid for ,by you and me so he doesn't have to worry .
    Mr Gregory I am now awaiting your comments.

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  10. chuck gregory3/20/13, 10:41 PM

    9:46-- the average net worth in Vermont is $416,244. The median net worth is $111,262 (source: Center for Rural Entrepreneurship, http://www.energizingentrepreneurs.org/elibrary/.files/VermontTOW/ESRI/ESRI%20Net%20Worth.pdf). Can you explain to me what the difference in those two numbers means?

    In other words, Senator Leahy is, like George Aiken, living in the tradition of the typical Vermonter, not sucking up to corporate sponsors to fatten his holdings nor hidiing it offshore like some presidential candidates we have heard of. He is as ready for retirement as is any other average Vermonter, and given his apparent lifestyle he will retire comfortably as you, (but not lavishly) as admired by the people of this state as was George Aiken and is Jim Jeffords.

    10:38-- you'll have to tell me more about George Aiken to explain how I could possibly have insulted him by comparing him to Pat Leahy.

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  11. Charles as I said ,He spends his money like a true democrat.
    He must be hiding it well as he makes 175000 salary and only has 130000 saved . All the research I can see online and at the Library says he doesn't make any extra money speaking,but I find it funny he hasn't saved a thing.
    Typical democrat if you ask me. Going to live off that pension he is given along with excellent healthcare free.

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    1. chuck gregory3/21/13, 3:25 PM

      1:17-- Houses in the DC area run $4500 a month and up; congressmen do not get a housing allowance, nor, as far as I know, do they get paid mileage to and from their districts. Why not get a copy of the Leahy household budget and tell us what you've found out? Also, it you would share your source for the $130,000 figure, it would be appreciated.

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    2. Google Senator Leahy net worth............

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  12. Congress members receive funds for business-related travel expenses. The expense allowance is determined by distance and covers transportation, housing and meal expenses at per diem

    Read more: Salaries and Benefits of U.S. Congress Members | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_8193483_salaries-benefits-congress-members.html#ixzz2ODO5zaE1

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  13. I have a email in to our the senators office to find out exactly what the benefits are .Beyond healthcare ,gym,retirement etc
    I will post as soon as I hear.
    I`m sure it will be soon.........

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    1. Auto response so at least I know they got the message.


      Thank you for contacting me. If you are a Vermonter looking for help on a constituent matter or to weigh in on the issues of the day, be assured that your e-mails will receive careful attention. If the matter is urgent, please call my office in Burlington (802-863-2525 or 800-642-3193) to speak with a member of my staff so there is no delay in our efforts to help you.





      Please note: the best way to e-mail me your questions and comments is through my website at www.leahy.senate.gov/contact/. You can also stay in touch and learn about my work in the Senate and how it affects Vermonters by signing up for my monthly newsletter, becoming a fan on Facebook, and following me on Twitter.





      Again, thank you for contacting me.





      Sincerely,


      PATRICK LEAHY

      United States Senator

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  14. chuck gregory3/21/13, 7:15 PM

    1:17's claim for Senator Leahy's net worth is so far off base that his/her entire argument is laughable. Wikipedia ranked the top and bottom ten, and #91, Saxby Chambliss, came in at $402,006. Leahy ranks somewhere above him:
    http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Net_Worth_of_United_States_Senators_and_Representatives.

    So, I guess the good Senator is not spending like a Democrat!

    Leviticus 1:7 - "For the Spirit that Anonymity has given us does not make us timid; instead, Its Spirit fills us with power, love, and unfounded claims".

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    1. Chuck try something besides wiki and look what you see.Dont believe all you read online .I am not gloating like you are I am just trying to point out that you may not always be right.(As much as you think you always are far superior to the rest of us)

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    2. chuck gregory3/21/13, 8:39 PM

      Cite your sources so I can check them from now on. If you make me do all the work, I am not going to think highly of you every time I find information that indicates you haven't done any. If my reaction makes you think I feel far superior to you, it's because you made me do your work and I found you were wrong.

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    3. Chuck I am not impressed ever since you made thos e crude basically racist comments last week.

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    4. Plus Chuck you haven't found me wrong have you?

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    5. chuck gregory3/22/13, 7:54 AM

      9:33-34:

      A. I would appreciate it if you would quote the "basically racist comments" you allege I made. I have no idea what you're talking about.
      B. Here is an example of providing a citation:

      Leahy net worth is $49,007-$210,000:
      From Open Secrets
      http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/otherdata.php?cid=n00009918&cycle=2012 (written in 2012)

      Net worth $129,504:
      From Washington Post, 10-6-12:
      $129,504: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/capitol-assets/congressional-wealth-risk-matrix/

      Net worth, $402,000+"
      from Ballotpedia: http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Net_Worth_of_United_States_Senators_and_Representatives

      So, now I'll let you figure out how to determine which one is closest to the truth, and we can proceed from there.

      "Spends like a Democrat" must be a pretty high compliment, since America's most recent Republican president entered office with a huge surplus and managed to turn it into an appalling deficit by the time he left. He did this not once, but twice in his life: as President and as Governor of Texas.

      You do seem to hew to the American rule that if a man is rich, he must be smart and if he's not rich, he must be dumb.

      And of course if it turns out Senator Leahy's net worth is indeed $400,000-plus, I advise you to declare that he has enriched himself by corruption and graft, like Sarah Palin and Dennis Hastert have. You can turn this into a win-win for you!

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    6. chuck gregory3/16/13, 7:42 AM

      So, how do you propose to make and keep Vermont the best state in the nation, or do you simply not want to live in a really nice town in a really nice state, the envy of all?

      One rather gets the impression that your plan would be to drive out all the undesirables, e.g., Gypsies, Jews and other non-Aryan and genetically flawed untermenschen, but I hope you have a more positive vision to share here.


      Chuck ,This is your post. No one mentioned anything about your "undesirables " except you .I happen to be part Jewish and if I was a Gypsie I would be upset with you also.
      That says to me you are a crude simple minded person.

      Grow up.
      Im done communicating with you.

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    7. chuckles,richest senator by a long shot is a dem. Kerry earned his money the old fashioned way.married into it.smarter than you and I together.

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    8. chuck gregory3/23/13, 8:27 AM

      So, 11:42, how do you feel about returning to the tax structure of the Eisenhower years, where Kerry would be taxed at a 90% nominal (50% actual) rate?

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    9. chuck gregory3/23/13, 8:43 AM

      11:22-- I have never stated that "Gypsies, Jews and other non-Aryan and genetically flawed" types are "untermenschen" and "undesirables. That was a question I asked of you elsewhere (you posted as "Anonymous"), and that phrase was used to help clarify for me exactly who you thought the lesser breeds were. (You never responded, by the way.) Perry Mason used that technique all the time when I was growing up. It put a lot of crooks in jail.

      The first thing I would do to help make Springfield the best town in Vermont and Vermont the best state in the nation would be to require every whiner who posts here contribute one positive suggestion every time they have a snide remark, an aspersion, an urban legend, a calumny, a misrepresentation or a character assassination. Such a practice would certainly give a good impression of Springfield to the stranger who was reading to find out more about the town and the state.

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  15. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt), 2011

    Year: 20112010200920082007200620052004

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    Net Worth: From $49,007 to $210,000
    Rank: 90th in Senate


    Assets: 6 totaling $49,007 to $210,000


    Liabilities: 1 totaling $250,001 to $500,000


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    1. chuck gregory3/21/13, 8:41 PM

      Would you please cite your source? Thank you.

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  16. I started from the bottom going up this came from the Washington Post . Chuck, three different places are putting his worth at way towards the bottom.I am not saying you are wrong however it does look like he spends like a democrat.Save nothing for the future? Looks like it.
    Patrick J. Leahy D VT $129,503
    Mark Kirk R IL $89,002
    Max Baucus D MT $85,005
    Russell Feingold D WI $75,500
    Jim DeMint R SC $40,501
    Mike Lee R UT $16,001
    Mark Pryor D AR $8,500
    Debbie Stabenow D MI -$32,500

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    1. Russ Feingold hasn't been a senator for several years.

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    2. Mark Kirk is no longer a senator, either.

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  17. chuck gregory3/21/13, 8:33 PM

    Please give details of your citation, 8:28. Thank you.

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    1. Washington Post report of the 2010 senators net worth .( Latest one that I could find )Started with John Kerry
      ended with Deb Stabenow.

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