Wednesday, January 24, 2018

Commentary: End Vermont’s draconian vehicle inspection system

If Gov. Phil Scott were sincere in his wish to improve Vermont’s affordability index, he would be wise to direct the Legislature to act with urgency to unwind the state’s draconian vehicle inspection system.


www.vtdigger.org

Michigan and Florida did studies and figured out that there was no measurable increase in safety with a vehicle inspection system. Only 17 out of 50 states have inspections.

23 comments :

  1. I agree to end this, it is crazy, we are all expected to have our vehicles in condition like they are brand new. When is the last time any one saw an accident caused by an unsafe vehicle based on inspection items. I agree with inspections but this is crazy, I have 2 trucks one is a 2003, and they failed it because there was some rust around the hood latch, nothing so much that it anything was loose, but rust on the hood latch failed the inspection.

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    1. It's outrageous. I actually had to throw myself into debt for the first time and buy a newer vehicle just to avoid this. Three vehicles I had to get rid of because of this. Devastating loss because I put a lot of money into them. My truck was denied because it had rust on the runner braces under the bed. WHAT?!?!

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  2. PS, Just more government over reach into our lives, and controlling our lives, we don't need a Big Brother or Sister.

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  3. chuck gregory1/24/18, 8:10 AM

    The whole issue reminds me of the Terri Gross interview of Monica Lewinsky. At one point, Terri asked her, "While you were [performing a certain act which cannot be described in the genteel circle of this blog], what was going through your mind?"

    What was going through the Legislature's mind when they processed and approved this? And where were the people who normally alert the public to folly? I did not see even one article or editorial about this.

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    1. Philip Caron1/24/18, 9:03 AM

      There were articles I read, and lots of commentary. Wasn't it covered in this blog once? Many mechanic shops have stopped doing inspections because the changes cost them too much more, what with needing a separate computer, wifi, cameras, etc., plus they disagreed with the changes.

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  4. Big Government? Sounds more like crooked car dealers and mechanics to me. They flunk your car and offer to "fix" it for an outrageous sum, or sell you a new one! There was a similar scam where I grew up. The Auto Dealers Association in the state worked out a deal with the Secretary of State; they used three times as much salt on the roads as was necessary, just to make people's cars rust out! A car would last about 5-7 years. They got caught; after that cars lasted between 10-15 years! It may LOOK like "Big Government," but if you scratch the surface, there's always businesses making money off it!

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    1. Scam indeed! However, the scammer is your state/federal government which places these requirements on us. I'm always amused when liberals whine about the regulations put into affect by those they vote for. Can't wait to see what happens when driverless cars are among us.

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    2. One, I'm not a "liberal." Two, the Secretary of State I was referring to was a Republican. Three, I'm always amused when conservatives blame liberals for the scams that they benefit from! Maybe if "liberals" stopped trusting crooked conservative businesses, and consulted people who actually know something (other than how to fleece the taxpayers) they would create better legislation! FOLLOW THE MONEY!

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  5. Ok, let's forget about politics for a minute. It's really very simple. The person doing the inspection has the ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY to condemn your vehicle. ALL of the power rests in his hands. That means that if he is crooked, and wants to rip you off, HE CAN! Now, let's get political. I don't know how many "liberal" auto dealers and mechanics there are out there, but in all my years as a driver, AND a mechanic, I've never met one. Considering some of the rust buckets I've seen driving around here that DID pass inspection, I suspect a lot of favoritism exists. I know one thing for sure, I paid a local dealer over $600 for a repair that took no more than an hour to complete, and cost no more than $25 in materials, just to pass! While I waited, they tried to sell me a rust bucket with a blown motor for 15k! Does that sound honest to anyone?

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    1. FYI: There are honest shops in Springfield who do NOT scam people. If your vehicle doesn't pass inspection, it's up to you to get it fixed so it can pass AND you're the one who's responsible for who does the repairs. The inspection stations don't like it anymore than the public does. It cost a lot of money to get set up, you still have to have money in escrow for the stickers and there's a monthly fee to the state depending on how many cars you inspect.....plus, your mechanics have to be certified to be able to inspect vehicles. If a vehicle doesn't pass inspection, it's not the shop's fault.....they have to follow DMV regs.

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    2. Oh, please! You, obviously didn't read my post, like most conservatives. Perhaps in YOUR twisted world we're all responsible when you rip us off! In the REAL world, where the rest of us live, charging $600 for $150 worth of work is criminal, as is trying to sell me a car that is too rusted pass NEXT year's inspection, for top dollar! My other car is down for the count; the dealer I took IT to tried to charge me over $3000 to replace a $125 dollar part that was in plain sight under the hood! I then took it to a local garage, where the mechanic was amazed at how rust-free it was. The owner came out of his office and gigged it for "rust on the rocker panel," even though it has a frame! They wouldn't fix it, but ANOTHER shop said they would, FOR $4000! In total, I could have bought another car, but that's the idea, isn't it? Maybe there are honest mechanics around here, but I haven't found one yet! I guess I'll try Rutland next year!

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    3. Jerry, I feel that the shop I went to is a reputable shop, but was going by the rules that the DOT and our legislation put in front of them, if they don't follow the rules they loose their licenses... there are some rough shops, but in my case not I don't feel... my favorite guy went out of business because of this so I lost a friend and good mechanic... Thanks Bob! It's all back on Montpelier they have no clue... sit and chew bubble gum all day and go home a drink wine...

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    4. Anon. 1:54 again. Uh, what rules? I was told by the last inspector that I went to (the $600 brake line) that he had ABSOLUTE DISCRETION, and the only "rule" was his opinion as to whether my car was "safe enough" to make it to the next inspection. The brake line WAS RUSTED, but 3 feet of steel tubing and one hour of work is A WHOLE LOT LESS than $600! I've done it myself a hundred times. Because of the inspection, they KNEW they had me by the shorthairs, so they stuck it to me, period. I will fix my other car, and save $7000 doing it, once the weather improves. Is the inspection problematic? Sure, it's a pain in the butt! I'd LOVE to see it go away! I can fix MY cars, if I have the time and the weather permits (I have no garage.) It's the people who CAN'T that are really screwed. Then there are those who don't care enough to fix them, who DO pose a threat to the rest of us. Some of the clunkers I've seen around here scare the hell out of me; the idiots driving them didn't inspire confidence, either. Yes there ARE standards set forth by the government, but if shops are free to interpret them at will for their own benefit, and charge whatever they like, people will continue to get screwed! Do the liberals in Montpelier have a clue? Probably not; they're allowing us to get robbed, aren't they? One more thing; since road salt is the primary culprit, shouldn't they bear some of the responsibility? There's plenty of blame to go around, I just get tired of the same old knee-jerk conservative responses!

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  6. 12:40, it sounds like that dealer mistook you for me.

    I noticed that car inspectors tended to police their own group. Somebody shopping to find leniency was likely to get a lenient inspector reported by an inspector who'd flunked the car the day before and then saw it on the road with a new sticker.

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  7. One thing's for sure, don't count on Emmons or Forguites to step up and introduce legislation to repeal this debacle. This is the product of a mindset in Montpelier of enacting legislation that allows profoundly stupid politicians to feel good about themselves.

    If you think these new inspection standards and system are absurd be thankful you've yet to encounter the Agency of Natural Resources. And with Vermont's overwhelming liberal electorate, no question, we have the government we deserve.

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  8. So for those of you that think having to fix ur rusted shitbox to make it legal as a problem......you are why it's this way. 1. Your piece of shit blows a brake line and you plow into another car or person on the crosswalk. 2. You get hit in the side of your car with rusted out rocker panels and get hurt and then she everyone u possibly can.unibody cars are built to be strong as a whole not when structural areas are compromised by rust. So inspections have gotten stricter to protect everyone from the junks driving around that shouldn't be on the road. As far as a check engine lite....run it. Should be the owners problem when the car does not big bro

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    1. You people really need to start READING the posts before you comment. MY CAR IS RUST FREE, AND IN NEARLY SHOWROOM CONDITION. It only has 35k miles on it! The only problem was a few feet of bake line, which I was GLAD to fix, since I'm not an idiot and don't want to die! My only objection was the cost to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!

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    2. Bake line? Really? What baking ingredient did you use to fix it with?

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  9. End it NOW! I will soon be 80 years old and can barely afford to pay my heating bill and property taxes If my car will not pass inspection I'll probably be like them that become illegal. south Carolina has no inspections at all. It's all about the money

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  10. You all hate big government till it comes time for all those benefits. Section 8, food stamps, heating assistance... but God forbid you are forced to drive a safe car.

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  11. NO Chuck We hate Government over stepping it's boundaries, it's here to protect and serve us, it has not served us since the 50's. And if the Dems had their way we would not be protected, Make America Great Again Mr Trump and stop more of these regulations.

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    1. Government shouldn't be forced to pay for bad choices you make in life. Having kids you can't afford. Living higher then you can afford. MAGA? Trump wants to do away with welfare. Not sure how u support him and expect to live off of other people's tax money.

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  12. Vermont should institute mandatory quarterly bicycle inspections and price them at only 10 cups of coffee each!

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