Wednesday, June 20, 2018

Standardized test shows Springfield students improving, still behind

Test scores improved slightly in the Springfield School District this year after falling below state averages. It’s unclear how students’ scores this year compare to state averages. State scores were not yet available on Monday.

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24 comments :

  1. “We’re still going to be FAR off the state averages in many of these areas,” (David Cohn, director of curriculum,)

    Thank a teacher.

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    1. More likely parents who don't value education, who think having the right political views are all that is necessary. And that goes for both sides! Even good news isn't good enough for them!

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  2. People often don't like to hear the truth, but the growing demographic of families in Springfield is likely a big part of the reason for low test scores. Sadly Springfield is one of the State's receptacles for people experiencing poverty, disability, and mental illness. It's a wonder the schools do as well as they do given the influx of students that are not ready to learn, and the behavior challenges some of them come with. Yes, it's parents who don't value education, and who often shouldn't have had kids to begin with. God forbid we hold parents accountable.

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    1. Philip CAron6/20/18, 6:57 PM

      Are the parents' parents responsible in turn?

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  3. chuck gregory6/20/18, 8:28 PM

    If we were a world-class school system, we would have only one test, given in the final year, for all students. It would measure the student and not the school. But nobody in Springfield wants to consider having a world-class school system, even though it would cost about 30% less. The shop town mentality hangs on!

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    1. And the broken record continues to spin...

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    2. chuck sorry bud but we all took tests to prove that we knew the subject. this whole teaching to the test was and is bs. we all had mid terms and finals that had to be passed.also i find it hard to believe 65 kids a grade level come from junkys. it sounds like the teachers just suck.

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    3. chuck gregory6/21/18, 7:20 AM

      6:31, the tests are not to grade the kids; they're to grade the school. We can have a system that does much better for much less. But we're waiting for Superman to do it for us-- and we will be very sorry if that happens.

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  4. I am glad that the overall scores are improving. But God Chuck Gregory, pretty sure everyone is tired of listening tonyou take your soapbox stand. Why don't you run for school board, since you have so much to say? Or are you just content holding you "Honk for Peace" sign on the corner, enticing people to break the law? Because honking your horn unless signaling a lane change or avoiding an accident in the state of Vermont is ILLEGAL!!! Whimsicaly beeping for a bullshit cause. Because honking our car horns in Springfield Vermont is stopping war across the globe!!!!
    You are annoying Chuck, why don't you try for REAL change.

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    1. Was not aware Chuck was part of that group, but they annoy me every time I drive by, I'm not sure what satisfaction they get from that, nor what they believe they are going to change.

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    2. Yes Roger, he is. It's ridiculous, and changes nothing. I have nothing against improving our schools, as my children attend them. But I try for real change. Like attending the school board meetings, and voting on budgets and such. I don't whine and soap box about it every day while effectively doing zilch like good ol' Chuck. (By the way, my student received an award at the middle school for most improved in Math and English in his grade for the SBAC testing.) Something has to be working.

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  6. chuck gregory6/21/18, 7:22 AM

    Well, until people like you, 5:26, want real change, I can't change anything. What do you have against making Springfield's school system world-class?

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    1. Chuck, your solutions mandate liberal indoctrination and spending as solutions. Alternatively, highly successful private schools achieve excellence by recruiting the most talented facility, and demanding the highest standards from their pupils. There are no participation awards. They groom winners.

      Meanwhile, our children suffer the backlash of hideous incompetence protected by a union. As proof my impoverished grandmother attended a one room school house in very rural VT over 100 years ago for only 8 years. She had an amazing command of English, grammar, geography, civics, math and formal etiquette. She taught me long division and decimal conversion with ease. Skills few Springfield elementary students possess today due to wholesale staff incompetence.

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    2. And may I add, calculators and smartphones. Both of which if you know what the symbols mean you can do the math (except calculus) and find the USA on the map of the earth. As well as your backyard.

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    3. Private schools have the luxury of rejecting students who they believe will perform poorly. This usually means the less affluent. Public schools are required to teach everyone, which makes things more difficult. You want to talk indoctrination? How about believing the private sector is better at everything, regardless of how bad, how expensive, and how corrupt it is? You on the right are textbook examples! You hate Unions, but you don't even know why! I do; it's been passed down through the generations, going back to the antebellum South. The word UNION means THE UNION, led by Abraham Lincoln. Phrases like "outsiders trying to destroy our way of life" is another antebellum Southern expression! It took me several years living in the Deep South to understand this. You guys are still fighting the Civil War, and you don't even know it! Or maybe you do; I've seen a few Confederate flags around town.......

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    4. Nothing against changing the schools, just your constant pestering while ineffectively doing nothing. Whine and carry on but not go to the school board meetings or anything. Have you ever spent time in one of our classrooms? We actually have some amazing teachers in our schools. Try to actually get down to the nitty gritty and take a tour. See then inner workings before you speech your opinions.

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    5. @1:18 PM, The embarrassing test results speak for themselves. The school is a failure. 165th out of 169 schools.
      Way past due for a faculty house cleaning.

      https://www.schooldigger.com/go/VT/schoolrank.aspx

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  7. chuck gregory6/23/18, 7:42 PM

    As a person in the world's best school system once said, "Put an American teacher in our system, and you will get excellent results. Put one of our teachers in an American system, and you won't."

    Having great teachers does not work, for two reasons: 1) The "great" ones move on to more attractive situations. 2) There will never be a sufficient number of "great" ones unless the system supports them.

    My several years of being a volunteer to teach a group of children ranging in age from 6 to 14 (any teacher can tell you the challenges present in that!) impressed upon me the importance of letting the teachers set the structure. What we have right now is a handcuffed school board and a system that is expected to be inspired not by the joys of education, but the threat of punishment.

    As a world-class school system would be an asset that could do what Precision Valley did for Springfield, we ought to be working to get it to turn the town around. But there's still an awful lot of the shop town mentality out there....

    As for private schools-- wake me up when they start accepting ALL kids, not just the ones who meet their qualifications.

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  8. Face it people...the one defining fact that keeps our schools at the bottom of the heap.....ALL CHILDREN ARE GUARANTEED AN EQUAL EDUCATION! No they shouldn't be, despite how touchy-feely those words sound some children need to be OUT of schools as well as some low performing TEACHERS! Accept mediocrity....live with mediocrity, and I'm using the term 'mediocrity' liberally, should instead use 'FAILURE'! Springfield is a failed school system, charter schools are the only live preserver for my children's future!

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  9. ....I have auto-correct turned OFF on my computer (because I proof - read before publishing), yet this site CONSTANTLY corrects my posts....sometimes to the detriment of my intended meaning, and oftentimes skewing it entirely. STOP IT!!!!
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    1. The Deep State is EVERYWHERE! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHH!

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  10. chuck gregory6/25/18, 2:49 PM

    8:44 hits the heart of the matter! "Equal education" should not mean: the same number of hours, the same emphasis on the same subjects, the same standardized tests for mastery. "Equal education" is: giving each student the opportunity to learn what she/he can do in this life. That means shifting from expecting all students to be above average in STEM to nurturing each student's individual potentials. It's being done in the world's top school system at thirty percent less than we pay here.

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  11. Let the phone be Smart, so you can be Dumb. That is what we strive for today.
    Plus you can play games all day sitting on the couch or even at work!! Wait my phones a buzzing, got to go and text text, I better look up cause I'm driving 50 thru town.

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