Springfield Biomass Links
http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20120226/FEATURES15/702269925
Sunday, February 26, 2012
Opinion: Burning our forests: A climate mistake
Should Vermont burn its trees to power light bulbs and refrigerators? And what will the impact be - on our forests, our air quality and our changing climate - if we promote greater use of wood for industrial-scale heat and power?
Springfield Biomass Links
http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20120226/FEATURES15/702269925
Springfield Biomass Links
http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20120226/FEATURES15/702269925
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ReplyDeleteVote no, voice your opinion, MAKE A STAND
No to Biomass,
It seems a bit short sighted of Springfield to allow a Biomass facility in to town.
ReplyDeleteLet's just say.
Maybe RIGHT NOW is actually one of the Best Most Peaceful times Springfield has seen in it's entire history.
Maybe LATER we'll find we needed the trees and can't undo the damage done to the watershed environment.
What you burn today, will not be there tommorrow.
Don't burn your bridges, your futures, or war time reserves.
Don't let out of staters and local facists trick you into believing you have new clothes.
you don't have new clothes and Biomass isn't the answer
Peaceful does not reduce the tax burden. This town does not need peaceful..this town needs to be vibrant and welcome any and all business willing to help increase our tax base, therefore reducing the tax burden to the property owner. Vote yes for Springfield's future
ReplyDeleteOhh by the way. There is no vote. Lol.
Deleteyou won't get a vote when they run out of trees and decide to burn bodies either
DeleteThis is so amusing to see the usual cast of Springfield's status quo support group resort to such specious arguments against the economic expansion of the town. When facts become too inconvenient for them and do not support their own self-interests (and selfish reasons to oppose a worthy economic investment) they fall back on the same tired and worn out fear mongering -- the trees will disappear...the watershed will be damaged...the sky is falling...the end of the world is near...They want to impose their own irrational fears on others.
ReplyDeleteMost of us are still waiting for these anxiety riddled crusaders opposed to economic progress to provide one clear example of where any plant of this type anywhere in the world has resulted in widespread deforestation and watershed destruction. The truth is they can't.
It's time to grow up Springfield and embrace economic initiatives that will diversify and contribute to the revitalization of our stagnant economy; provide jobs for our citizens; expand our tax base and provide new revenues for our schools, roads, bridges and other infrastructure; free us from our pathetic dependency on state and federal grants, loans, and other handouts; and return the great benefits of the free market to our town.
Thank's Bob
Deletewhen you'r retired, you'll have more time to blog!
I really love reading these posts! This stuff cracks me up! There is no yes or no vote for the actual biomass plant. You can go voice you opinion at the public hearing that is coming up, but it is up to the state to permit if it actually happens. I no longer live in Springfield, but I think anything that can bring jobs and lower taxes is a good thing! Get over this whole pollution thing!! The cars you drive and the wood burning stoves you use put more pollutants in the air each day then this thing ever will! And yes I know there will be arguments about all the water it will use and all the trucks on the roads etc, etc. Get over it already! Springfield is a dying town, and this is something that could really give it a boost!
ReplyDeleteI vote we don't listen to any Former Springfielders
DeleteSeems like former Springfielders and current ones with open mind and a look to.the future are the smart.ones here.
Delete$10 an hour jobs are not the answer. Loading wood into a furnace is not rocket science.
Delete160 employees with a 9 million dollar payroll I believe equals a bit more than 10 dollars an hour
DeleteThere is universal acknowledgment that burning wood emits more carbon at the stack than fossil fuels. Just the Fair Haven and Springfield plants alone will massively increase the state’s power sector carbon dioxide emissions. For this to be mitigated would require a simultaneous and instantaneous increase in forest growth (a physical impossibility) to take up the extra carbon that’s emitted when biomass is burned for energy. This fact was acknowledged in a study of biomass in Massachusetts by the well-respected Manomet Center in 2010. It was underscored just a few days ago in a report co-written by Vermont’s Biomass Energy Resource Center, in which the researchers concluded that it would take 53 years, even with the fast growth of Southeastern pine plantations in Florida and Georgia, to reabsorb the amount of carbon released in biomass energy production
DeleteHow Manomet Got It Backwards
Deletehttp://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2011/05/how-manomet-got-it-backwards-challenging-the-debt-then-dividend-axiom
Manomet's simplistic analysis contains the typical "green bias" by ignoring complex systems theory.
What's your next tactic to stymie economic development and growth in Springfield - citing the fraudulent data disseminated by the discredited University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit in Britain?
"It was underscored just a few days ago in a report co-written by Vermont’s Biomass Energy Resource Center"
Deleteper this article.. Posted Here Today.
we are not tactical. we are reading the news.
and then cut and paste sharing.
Reading and comprehending are two separate things and given your difficulty with the latter it's a wonder you've risen to such lofty ranks in academia. Oh right, you're just fantasizing about that, too!
DeleteI cut and pasted my degree
DeleteWe know, Pinocchio, we know. Your opposition to the burning of wood is now fully understood.
DeleteI'm.glad there's no vote. Us native Springfielders might actually have a chance that something good happens for a change instead of being outvoted by nimby's and transplants
ReplyDeleteWho was it who said "There's none as crazy as those that want to be."? Not all the whacko's out there suffer from mental illness. Some of them enjoy every minute of it.
Delete"nimby's and transplants" do you represent the whackos ?
I represent the hard working life long citizens of Springfield who want to see the tax base increased and jobs created and Springfield become again what it was in the mid 1900's. It won't happen if we continue to say no to businesses that want to move here and invest in out community.
DeleteIsn't that the Devil's creed.. They have to tell you what they are going to do before they do it?
DeleteAs long as you allow it it's o.k.. they say
And If you don't object.. They interpret that as a vote in their favor. Willfull action of non action.
I hope Everyone is Reading up on all of the alternatives to Biomass the Host and Admin has linked to this blogspot.
ReplyDeleteSo many alternatives right here at your finger tips.
Too bad everything is made in China. Everything these days is made in CHINA
I challenge Springfield to make something here instead of burning the trees.
Alternatives that still not will be allowed by the nimby's in this town.
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that the creator of this blog will not allow comments to be posted about Springfield on the move, but will let everyone bash on the Biomass Plant. This blog reminds me of Fox News. Biased and one sided!! I expect this post will be deleted too!!
ReplyDeleteOh never mind, they moved it to the actual springfield on the move blog post! Interesting that they edited it down though! Carry on!
ReplyDeleteTypical liberal, spouting off at the mouth before knowing the facts.
ReplyDeleteNimbys, Transplants, and Whackos. Ohh. My!
ReplyDeleteRun Toto. Run!
I don't want to be harsh here. I do own my second home in Springfield and pay taxes there but why is it the people much more wealthy than me go to their chalets in stowe, wilmington and ludlow and they don't have to worry about their town building a king size wood stove next to their homes? how is it that springfield feels justified to do this? how about we build a fat rendering plant and a gasoline refinery in downtown springfield. A job is a job right? I can't wait for the 18 wheel overloaded trucks to come rumbling down 106 and route 5. of course all of the land owners will clear cut their properties because the plant wants local wood. Let's just burn the whole town down and sell weenie roast tickets. One more point, taxes never go down - spending always meets revenue and then some. Do you really think your taxes will do down? I am going to open a pressure washing business to wash the soot off of homes. Maybe we can get some good lung cancer doctors into town. springfield can now officially be called the armpit of northern new england. bridgeport ct has competition. springfield - the home of the 140 foot smoke stack - quintessential vermont. the new motto - who needs tourism just burn the place down for 10 dollar jobs.
ReplyDeleteGo back to CT or move to Stowe it is flatlanders like you who want to keep this town in poverty.
DeleteI couldn't agree with you more. Us natives are trying to make a living.
DeleteYour not a native...
DeleteIt is B.S. like what you wrote here that keeps the real Springfielder's from getting rich.
Seriously, Your not a native.
I do live here, and intend on living here.
No Biomass.
Send anyone complaining about taxes and or local Jobs away.
Anyone talking about Jobs and or Nimbys and making a divide that describes locals as pro-Bio is A LIAR.
We are Local and we vote NO BIO.
If you build it, we will bother you for ever.
My birth certificate says springfield,VT. What's on yours?
DeleteI was looking to buy a home in Springfield. Between the hatred for out of towners and the soon to be foul air I think we will look elsewhere. I don't see housing value going up when that plant is built.
DeleteSounds good, stay in CT flatlander!
DeleteWhen I moved to Springfield in 1977, a huge debate was ongoing about the construction of a municipal sewer treatment plant in North Springfield. Critics pointed out it was upstream of the town, that sewage would have to be pumped to it, if it was built. It was built but never used, because the powers-that-be apparently eventually learned that yes, water and sewage both run down hill, not up.
ReplyDeleteNow Springfield is debating a biomass generating facility. There are actually two questions: whether a biomass facility will benefit the Town, and if so, where it should be located. Prevailing winds approach Springfield from the west. If the facility is built, it should be constructed down wind of the town, down wind of the airport, down wind of Stellaphane, and certainly not in a location where the air breathed by our children and ourselves will be contaminated. By constructing the biomass facility on the east side of town, traffic will be reduced and a minimum of health complaints will result.
I am looking to rent a retail space in Springfield to sell chain saws, plaster repair and gas masks. Anyone know of a good spot? My other shop will be in Ludlow where I will sell hiking, fishing and cycling gear.
ReplyDeleteThere are a mulitude of buildings in town that are vacant, just set up shop and pay your taxes, 1000's of welfare recipients are depending on it
DeleteNot everyone on welfare wants to be on welfare. I understand that some abuse the system, but not everyone. As for the retail space, there is plenty downtown. I will be buying your gas masks. When you setting up shop?
DeleteHow bout taking a hike yourself.
ReplyDeleteRenewable energy is awesome, unless of course you want to put it somewhere. Look across the state, it doesn't matter if it is wind (lowell mountain), solar fields (charlotte), or biomass (springfield), everyone loves the idea of lessening our dependence on foreign oil and creating a better/cleaner environment unless it is placed in their backyard. So instead will will continue to use costly oil from foreign nations and have huge environmental disasters like the gulf spill or continue to produce more than 50% of our electricity with the nastiest substance on earth.
ReplyDeleteBiomass is not "Renewable"
Deleteunless you PLAN ON counting your trees before they grow (count your chickens before they hatch)
Hydro power for VT from CA is plentiful and close by. No need for small belching forest burners. VT has really lost their way on this one. Figures they would prey on the poorest town in the state for this. This firm from Concord should try and put one in their town and see what the well to do folks in Concord have to say. Ask yourself why the project wasn't proposed for Woodstock.
DeleteHydro power for Vermont is plentiful from Canada and costly, wait for your electric bill when all the nimby's get their way and this is our only source of electricity. Supply and demand and cost increases ring a bell?
Deletethe latest update from winstanley says there will be 30 jobs once the plant is running; check out the reports by the Lung Association. If this is such a beneficial project, why aren't they looking to western Mass? There are lots of trees there!
ReplyDeleteUmmm, i am going to go out on a limb here, but my guess is one reason they aren't doing it in western mass is that they dont OWN an INDUSTRIAL PARK there.
ReplyDeletewestern Ma said No to Biomass actually.
DeletePeople tried, it didn't get through.
Why are transplants being attacked here? When we moved here YEARS ago, we bought a home and pay taxes, we bought a second home in town and pay taxes on that as well (at the resident rate). We shop locally, and yet are still ousted as residents. Does my opinion not matter because my birth certificate does not say Springfield, VT? Both of my children's say Springfield, VT...I guess their opinion will matter more than mine.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you go back to where you came from! It's people like YOU who are changing our town for the worse. I really don't want to hear your opinion unless you are truly from Springfield.
DeleteWe never asked you to move here, never asked you to spend your money and certainly don't want to hear what you have to say!
FLATLANDER!
And your opinion is what? Because you're from Springfield you know better? I bet your doormats don't say Welcome on them do they. I'm against the project and I'm not from here, so where does that leave me? I've been paying my taxes here for over 25 years, does my opinion count? I betcha I've paid more in property tax then you have all your years living here and have more to lose and have loss then you will ever own. I buy my groceries at Shaws (I bet you go to Marketbasket) my gas at G0-G0 (do you fill up while you are in Claremont) and go to diner at local resturants (how's the Common Man anyhow?). Does that make me a Springfielder? I'm still here and plan on staying. So guess what, as long as I pay my taxes, have a vote and live here I have a say in things. You are where you live not where you're from!
DeleteYou guys that run you mouth are an embrassement to Springfield. You want it to recover it's past but you don't want anyone to tell you how it can be done working together. Apparently part of being a native includes whinning.
Perfectly said!! Kudos!!!
DeleteI couldn't agree more... I guess because I moved here when I was 2, I'm considered a transplant, as well. But, I graduated from school here, I own a home, I pay taxes, work here, own a business here, have three children in the school district. Please, if someone lives here they have every right to their opinion. They are breathing this air, too! This air that will be filled with dangerous chemicals if we allow a biomass plant to come in. We have to work together for the greater good! Honestly, I'd rather this town be infested with forward-thinking "transplants", than have to waste my time pushing closed-minded locals out of the way for those of us who actually want to be part of the solution!
DeleteThe problem is we will never recover its past, all the industry has moved to the southern states because of the costs of electricity and heating associated with being in the north. We need the low cost energy this plant will provide so that Springfield again is a viable location for industry. Without industry and business to offset the services the town provides, the taxes will fall on the residential taxpayers who are about at the end of what they can afford. If we reach that tipping point services will have to be cut and now we will have to overcome the high utility costs of running a business and overcome the fact that we are no longer a full service community. WE NEED BUSINESS. If we don't produce our own energy, someone else will, sooner or later another coal plant will be built to the west of us, and as people so aptly put it the prevailing winds, will send their contaminants this way anyway.
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