Saturday, July 28, 2012

Accused shooter faces more charges

A Springfield man faces additional charges after five witnesses alleged he shot at a man in downtown Springfield earlier this month.
http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20120728/NEWS02/707289935

33 comments :

  1. Mineral Street. Big white house behind old folks high rise, that looks nice on exterior.

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  2. A tremendous thank you to everyone who has spoken the truth to the police about this horrific situation.

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  3. chuck gregory7/28/12, 7:48 PM

    After I spoke at the select board meeting about how this sort of behavior was the same that resulted from the criminalization of alcohol and argued for a close look at the future decriminalization of weed, a man privy to the facts of the incident told me the altercation was not over a drug debt, but a female. So much for perceptive social analysis!!

    Maybe we need a forum on Women and Gangs....

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    1. yea it was over a female. this guy likes to be alpha male. any other guy that's not intimidated by him, he'd try and mess with. seen it way too many times.

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  4. Those women will get you EVERY time

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  5. Plain and simple the town is to blame for this. The voters allowed in businesses that cater to the criminal element and the select board pushed and thanked and partnered with the restorative justice center so do not be suprised with what you got from the deal. The prison coming in was another bad choice. The residents are ALWAYS wooed with dollar signs and promises and each and every one has themself to thank for it!

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  6. Poor Springfield (now literally and figuratively)...Duped yet again!

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  7. Dear Mr. Censor,

    Is this comment too controversial to be published?

    First Amendment Advocate

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  8. Does it really matter whether it was over drugs or women? What matters is that we seem to be fostering a culture of violence in a run down part of town extending from in front of Union Street down to lower Park Street. This is basically what you can expect to have happen when you let an area fall into disrepair and ruin.

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  9. Hey that is awfully close to the Gear Shaper. Ya don't think the investors and you pumpers are a little nervous about that ruining a great scam?

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  10. Its closer to Parks and Woolson

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    1. River Moguls 20127/30/12, 9:51 AM

      The Parks and Woolson is now The River Moguls LLC building. (Since 2006).

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    2. Point being?

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    3. Meh there's a lot of bad in Springfield. Union St, Park st, Wall st, downtown..the list could go on. any aptthat a slumlord owns and property is junk, I'm sorry, but seems to be where its coming from

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  11. River Moguls 20127/30/12, 11:52 AM

    You appear to want to help.

    If you want to, now you can get the name right when other people are talking about it. Not that you have to get it right, of course.

    Best of luck, masked cruisader.

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    1. above @ Alpin Jack @ 7/30/12/ 11:15 AM

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    2. Do the River Moguls have a plan?

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    3. River Moguls 20127/30/12, 2:17 PM

      Yes they do.

      But you should really ask them and not me, I am only friends with one of the owners.

      I, like you, hope the town continues to move forward.

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    4. River Moguls should be paying close attention to what happens with Park Street School, if Park Street is rescued and renovated -- then people are going to start looking at their building next and wanting it to come alive as well. Right now their building is being used as an example of what people do not want Park Street School to become -- which is unfortunate because I am sure that their building has some redeeming qualities as well. If they have not already done so, they should join the Park Street Reuse Group on Facebook which is a bunch of progressives trying to come up with plans and to advocate. Wish them the best of luck in their endeavors -- I feel the fate of Union Street and lower Park Street are linked they rise or continue to decline together. There are others that feel the same way.

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  12. Want to know the true value of either Park Street School or the Parks & Wilson buildings? Try to give them away. Not only are the buildings commercially worthless, even the real estate they're situated one is of little value.

    The most practical solution is to raze these and other vacant properties to diminish their liability on what little appeal Springfield has left. Good example is the Comtu Park maintained by the garden club. Hell of an improvement over the eyesore it replaced.

    In addition to curtailing the expansion of multi family and low income homes, our Select Board must enact zoning to raze dilapidated, vacant, and abandoned properties. If the Select Board refuses to comply the taxpayers have the option of a recall election to install members that will force change.

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    1. Ears Wide Shut7/30/12, 4:37 PM

      Funny.

      I heard the Comtu Park people got sued by the owner of River Moguls LLC.

      I will bet on the victor.

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    2. Sweeping up for Chris7/30/12, 4:44 PM

      It is also rumored that River Moguls LLC fired their Chester attorney when the attorney became a Board Member of SRDC.

      I like River Moguls LLC, great company, great building, great founder.

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    3. I am not completely familiar with the River Moguls property, but the building that was torn down obstructed the view of the river, unfortunately they didn't tear the portion of the particle board palace beside it down to the street level so it really has had little impact. Tearing Park Street down would serve no purpose other than to create an ugly parking lot. I do not know enough about the former Parks and Woolson building to determine whether it is salvageable, it has not been maintained like Park Street has.

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  13. Downt Town Tax Payer7/30/12, 5:12 PM

    that is not a rumor.

    His attorney ran chicken and punked out of the Comtu Park lawsuit for a spot on SRDC which has a spot with the people who made the park and probably wrote the above anonymous coment.

    Fight the good fight.

    keep a real score..

    downtown gun play..... ONE.

    Manipulative Non Profiters.. DOZENS.

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    1. Is this supposed to make sense?

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    2. Down Town Tax Payer7/30/12, 5:31 PM

      I meant that as a comment to "Sweeping up for Chris"

      I am his neighbor, we all live downtown near the shooting.

      No more time to skip count on the politicians.

      Springfield is in more danger from the management than from the street.

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  14. I grew up in Springfield back in the 60's, then moved to the south where I have lived ever since. It looks like you folks are experiencing what the rest of the counrty has been dealing with for years. It is not a racial issue at all, what it is basicly is an element of society that is bent on violence in order to get what they desire, instead of earning it as do the productive members of society. I have had to deal with this eliment on several ocassions through the years by walking in on holdups, witnessing shootings and being robbed and pistol whipped. You voters had better stop this tread now or you'll become just another slum infested crime ridden town like so many others in this failing nation...."Take Back America, With Law and Order!"Elect Hard-asses not panty-wads........... notpantywards...........

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    1. Now, now the Selectboard has this all under control. It appears we just need to let the citizens vent again, perhaps they will take a few wishy washy steps. Everything will be just fine, why our stalwart Police Chief may even be able to sort out which bath salts are illegal. Perhaps have the police walk around a little more -- no need to get nasty with the landlords they are just being good real estate entrepeneurs. Give this a couple months and the crowds at the Selectboard meeting will abate, and they will go back to throwing brick bats at School board which is of course to blame for everything going wrong in this community, not that much is going wrong just a little boisterousness is all. Been thinking perhaps they should reopen the armory though, it has a nice indoor shooting range in it, and it appears the good citizens of this community need a little target practice. I mean a whole clip and missed completely. And that owner of the beauty parlor whining about the bullets in her shop, its a good thing the board chairman took a stern hand and cut her off from talking. Got to sometimes demonstrate who is control, or the citizens start behaving like rabble and demanding action. Its much better to just let things sort themselves out.

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  15. Make no mistake, these actions are indicative of racial behavior. A behavior the never existed until this "element" infested our community. Well publicized FBI crime statics bear this out. Racial makeup and violent crime go hand in hand.

    Put any spin on it you like. I especially appreciate a rebuttal by those that have electively moved here to the 2nd whitest state in the union to escape this element, and now hypocritically denounce those that see it for what it is.

    We are the Invisible Empire. Your doctors, policemen, employer, merchant and neighbor. It is us that fight for community standards that value your children and homes.

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    1. Take your racist bigotry elsewheres, we have a problem, but its not race. Our problem is lack of vigilance on the part of our police force, and lack of action on the part of our Selectboard. We have allowed drug dens into our community, some are white, some are black -- doesn't matter what the race is, what matters is the violence and the failure to take effective action. Monday night had better show us a Selectboard read to move on multiple fronts and we don't need a bunch of bigotry and racism. We don't need to behave like a bunch of ignorant Southerners.

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    2. Now Alpin, no need to get all frothy at the mouth and make aspersions against our dear Confederate brothers. Although in the party we prefer to speak a little more delicately about people of inferior culture and people lacking ambition, you know. And we are the party of non-violence you know, why I was just talking with some friends at a gun show recently and we were talking about how tolerant our party had become since our beloved Ronald Reagan's administration welcomed into the party all those fine Southern conservatives who had previously been Democrats. Spoke at Bob Jones University and all, engaged in seemingly populist rhetoric, encourage all those fine Christian fundamentalists to follow their narrow little minds wherever they wanted to wander. Look at all the good we have accomplished, jobs just sprouting everywhere, poverty, if not completely eliminated, at least thoroughly ignored. And pretty soon we will have the same education standards as Mississippi and Alabama -- look at all the progress we have made. Have bade the Chinese welcome to our industry. Why we are a very diverse culture now So just quit getting upset at these boys they are just display their conservative culture roots and we want to encourage culture don't we?

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    3. Aethelred the Unready8/11/12, 10:13 PM

      Sorry Boss this is not a situation that calls for humor. If the Selectboard fails to take effective action to remedy the situation and repeats what it did last month when confronted with demands from the citizens of Springfield, the situation is rife with possibility for the matter to bring out the worst in the citizenry. The post by Anonymous 12:10 is an example of the worst of the Springfield old guard and needs to be condemned. The Selectboard, Police Chief, and Town Manager need to quit sitting on their hands, but that does not mean that we should degenerate into ugliness of the type evidenced in Anonymous 12:10's rhetoric.

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    4. No this is what's exactly happening. you get one alpha person; a leader.. gang related, drug related. doesn't matter the race, but cone to Vermont. Vermont is laid back. I've heard this many times by the culprits themselves. Vermonters never seen this kinda stuff. you introduce a gang to a few kids, they think its cool and act all tough and do stupid crap. they bring drugs this way because the further south, the cheaper it is. more expensive here. profit, profit. kids need something to do. unfortunately Springfield got hit with a few bad apples. and I guarantee we will see more of this. that's just that

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