What Happened To Howard Dean's Voting Machine Interview With Bev Harris Exposing Election Fraud?
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November 2016: Once a Liberal Darling, Bev Harris Still Thinks the Elections Are Rigged
It was Bev Harris who in 2000 discovered the evidence that Al Gore lost 16,022 votes in machine-voting Volusia County, Florida due to "error". This was enough to cost him the presidency.
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A bombshell study released by Stanford University in August confirms evidence of election fraud during the 2016 Democratic Party primaries.
Odds Hillary won without widespread fraud: 1 in 77 billion say Berkeley, Stanford studies
Election watchdog group says fraud cost Sanders 184 delegates
“Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates,” the newly released report states.
Brief summary: www.yournewswire.com
Full 99 page report here
From the 2012 Election:
Non-citizens voting
In 2014, a study released by a team of professors from Old Dominion University and George Mason University estimated that approximately 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted In the 2008 presidential election. They also surmised that 2.2 percent voted in the 2010 midterm election. In addition, the study estimated that 80 percent of noncitizens who appeared to have voted cast their ballots in favor of one party. Noncitizens are believed to have voted in these elections in numbers great enough to have affected the outcome.
Read more: www.fairus.org/issue/noncitizens-voting-violations-and-u-s-elections
Video:
Undercover video: Brooklyn Poll Worker Caught Committing Probable Voter Fraud Felony
Special thanks to "balconycollapse" for recording the original broadcast on his VCR and holding on to the recording all these years.
Politico Magazine: Illegal Immigrants Could Elect Hillary
How noncitizens decrease Republican chances of winning the White House.
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Howard Dean Guest-hosts Topic [A] With Tina BrownAugust 8, 2004 |
CNBC Announcer: Sitting in tonight for Tina Brown, is Governor Howard Dean.
Governor Howard Dean: Tonight I want to talk about two topics that I'm passionate about. The first is a conversation about race and racial justice. The second is electronic voting machines, and the possibility that elections could be rigged in America.
[Station break:]
CNBC Announcer: Up next-- how easy is it to rig a national election?
Bev Harris: We just edited an election, it took us 90 seconds.
[end station break]
Dean: If you think the 2000 Florida election was a big problem, you ain't seen nothin yet. The 2004 elections promises to be a nightmare for a lot of voters, and it all centers around electronic voting machines.
Dean's Voice, Narrating: Maybe you're used to pulling a lever, or punching a card when you cast your vote. The odds are getting better, (that) come November, you'll get a taste of a new and controversial trend-- electronic voting.
In 1998, only 7% of all U.S. counties used electronic voting machines. Then came the 2000 Florida fiasco, and in its wake, the so-called Help America Vote Act of 2002.
Now, in order to qualify for millions of dollars in Federal funds, states are pinning their hopes on electronic voting machines, manufactured by private companies like Diebold, ("Dee-bold") and Sequoyah. The result-- in the next presidential election, roughly 1 in 3 of us will use one.
But critics have found all sorts of flaws with these machines, from software security concerns, to the complete lack of a paper trail to verify votes. These machines cannot be recounted.
In Riverside County, California, an incumbent mysteriously pulled ahead after the voting machine company employees stopped the tally to tinker with the machines.
In Iowa [graphic shows "Allamakee County, Iowa"], machines in one precinct returned 4 million votes-- when only 300 actual voters turned out.
In San Diego, election officials reportedly turned to teenagers to reboot their malfunctioning machines.
Woman to Man, both huddled over a Voter Card Writer: I think we're on the wrong screen.
And in Florida, a computer crash erased the records from Miami-Dade's first widespread use of touchscreen voting machines-- all data from the the 2002 gubernatorial primary is gone.
[end Video]
Dean: There are two problems. One, there's no paper trail which means you can't verify your vote, and it can't be recounted. The other potentially serious problem: tampering and rigging of elections. We asked Diebold, one of the companies that makes these machines, and Florida Secretary of State Glenda Hood to appear on this program. They both turned us down.
But Bev Harris is here. She's a crusader who thinks this is a disaster waiting to happen. Bev, you've made a potentially blockbuster statement. In under 2 minutes, you can hack into an electronic voting system, and change the results of an election with almost no chance of being caught. Bev Harris, how did you discover this?
Bev Harris, Executive Director of 'Black Box Voting': Well, I found the software that they were keeping secret, as a proprietary trade secret, and I found it on the Web quite by accident, and I worked with several different computer scientists who were very helpful in terms of analyzing the weaknesses. One of them had designed accounting software before. And of course, counting votes is just a form of bookkeeping. And right away he could see the weaknesses in it, and he kind of walked me through it like an AOL tech might walk you through something on the phone, he showed me how to rig an election.
Dean: If this is so easy to do, what in the world are we doing relying on this technology all over the country?
Harris: We need to get in there, and we need to actually demonstrate to some of the officials who are making these decisions, how easy it is. Because they're really relying too much on the vendors.
Dean: Bev sat me down, and in a few short seconds I was amazed at what I could do.
[Begin video:]
Dean: All right, Bev, show me how to do this.
Harris: Well, What we have here is the central tabulator computer. Now in a voting system you have all these different voting machines at all the different polling places, sometimes, as in a county like mine, there's a thousand polling places in one county.
All those machines feed into the one machine so it can add up all the votes. So of course if you were going to do something you shouldn't, to a voting machine, would it be more convenient to do it to the 4000 machines or to just come in here to one machine and deal with all of them at once?
What surprises people is the central tabulator is just a PC. It's like you and I use, it uses Windows, it's just a regular computer.
Dean: So anybody who can hack into a PC, can hack into the central tabulator.
Harris: The GEMS program is the program that is the central tabulator program. And I'm going to put in a password here. OK, we're in. Now this is the official program that the county supervisor sees.
Dean: Is this the Diebold program?
Harris: Yes, this is a Diebold central tabulation program.
Dean: OK.
Harris: And then go to 'Election Summary Report', It's gonna-- we're in spin for a minute, while it adds up all the votes from all the different precincts.
And as we can see here, Howard Dean has a thousand votes, and Lex Luther (sic) has 500 so you're beating Lex Luther and we're--
Dean [gleefully]: --Two to one!--
Harris: --Yes, and Tiger Woods unfortunately doesn't have any votes yet.
Dean: All right.
Harris: All right, let's close this out. I was just showing you the legitimate way to go in and look at votes, which of course--
Dean: --All right--
Harris: --you can't tamper with.
Go to the Start Menu, and I'm going to show you something tricky. And I want you to go to 'My Computer' and just click that, and you're going to see something come up, go to...
Harris: ...'Local Disc C:' and go to 'Program Files'. And on Program Files we're going to go to 'GEMS', which is the name of the Diebold program...
We're going to go to 'LocalDB', which stands for 'Local Database, that's where they keep the votes. And by the way, this has been out on the Internet for ages now.
Harris: Go to 'Central Tabulator Votes', which is the database we just looked at...
...and then go to the 'Sum of the Candidates', which is that table.
Harris: You see we have 800 votes here for you, and 400 for Lex Luthor-- Let's just flip those. We'll make that 400... and we'll give a hundred votes to Tiger.
Harris: Let's just see what happened here. We'll go back into GEMS the legitimate way, you're the county supervisor, you're checking on the progress of your election, and as you can see now, Howard Dean only has 500 votes, Lex Luther has 900 and Tiger Woods has 100 votes.
Dean: Hm.
Harris: We just edited an election, it took us 90 seconds.
[end video]
Dean: Bev Harris, this really points out why it's important to have a paper trail-- so people can't alter the results. What is being done around the country to deal with this?
Harris: Well, there are some places where they are working on it. Kevin Shelley's had some real backbone and he's been fighting the battle in California. In the state of Ohio they have now mandated the paper ballot. But... not enough, and we've got an election coming up this fall where we may have as many as 30% of America voting on machines that can't be recounted or audited.
Dean: I'm glad you gave Kevin Shelley a plug. We have Kevin Shelley, the Secretary of the State of California. You're using e-voting in California. Why?
Kevin Shelley, California Secretary of State: In terms of California, Governer Dean, why we're doing what we're doing, you know we're the only state in the entire country right now that has standards in place for a voter-verified paper trail. I think it is absolutely essential that the voter have the opportunity to confirm his or her vote. Not only so it can be used for recount purposes at a later time, but also so that you know, and have-- the voter has the confidence, that their vote will be correctly counted as they intended it, as it was cast.
Dean: How are you going to prevent hacking and fraud, though. You saw what Bev was able to coach me to do in 90 seconds. How do you-- what-- do you have a mechanism in California to stop that?
Shelley: We absolutely do. As you may know, Governor, in a number of instances, we banned certain machines-- the Diebold TSX machine-- in a number of our counties, including San Diego, which was one of the topics of your piece. Beyond that, we've required very strict security measures. Not only, the source code be made available to us, by the vendor, and we've demanded it, and we've received it, the only state to do so, but also each voter having the option of voting on paper, as well as, security measures with the machinery itself. Two specific measures that would prevent the situation that Bev just was demonstrating to you-- we demand that, and require, that the results be posted at the polling place, so that you can't later change the results of that particular polling place when the officials at the master computer are counting them. Secondly, we also ensure that there is a paper receipt. Now, it's not a voter-verified paper receipt, which is what we would prefer, but a paper receipt that is immediately produced at the conclusion of the polling hours, so that before it gets counted at the main location, that can be referred to, that has the actual results on it.
Dean: Kevin, I spoke to Bill Bradbury, who's the Secretary of State of Oregon, and apparently, in Oregon they have a law that says you cannot use any voting machines, unless the voting machines can be recounted, which of course would cancel out any use of any of these kinds of machines.
Talk to me, and Bev, jump in here too, about states that you think are-- that either of you think are, at very high risk for a, "polluted" if you will, voting result, come November, and states that have really done their job and that are pretty good bets for when voters go to the polls, their actual votes are gonna be counted the way that they should.
Shelley: Let me speak to that, Governor, if I may, because I think we've taken very aggressive steps here in California, and I came very close, as Ms. Harris knows, to just banning all the machines outright, and we did ban them in certain instances, and in others we put in security measures. But I--
Harris:--But the security measures aren't really in. This is one of my concerns, is the exact hack that I showed Governor Dean, is still in place in the brand-new software, and in fact I had that demonstrated by a county supervisor the other day. And we found exactly that back door. So, we still have a ways to go.
Dean: All right, let me ask you both a very tough question--
Harris: --It's vulnerable.--
Dean: Do you, Kevin Shelley, and Bev, do you consider the election in two thousand-- November election in 2004, that's coming up, for President of the United States, do you consider that to be a safe election, which is unlikely to-- which is likely to give us the results that that indicate who the next President of the United States is?
Harris: Unfortunately, I think we have a high probability of Florida-style meltdown in multiple states, because we have not put the procedures in place that we need to have in place in all the states.
Dean: Kevin?
Shelley: You know, in your setup piece that showed that election official in Florida with the magnifying glass looking at that chad-producing punchcard ballot, I don't wanna see officials trying to hoist up an electronic voting machine on November 3rd, trying to look into the software, so I think that it's important that everyone take aggressive security measures, ban the machines where necessary. You never can have 100% perfection, but I think we need to take aggressive approaches. That's not being done now, I think we have taken a very aggressive approach in California, and we would call on others throughout the country to follow our lead.
Dean: Kevin Shelley, thank you so much, Bev Harris, thanks very much--
Harris and Shelley: Thank you.
Dean: Ask your local officials-- is your voting safe? The answer may surprise you.
At one time, Democrats were the ones raising concerns over election fraud. Howard Dean experienced first hand just how easy it is to rig a national election.
From the August 8, 2004 edition of CNBC's 'Topic A with Tina Brown', with Dean as guest host.
Dean: If you think the 2000 Florida election was a big problem, you ain't seen nothin yet. The 2004 elections promises to be a nightmare for a lot of voters, and it all centers around electronic voting machines.
Dean's Voice,
Narrating: Maybe you're used to pulling a lever, or punching a card when you cast your vote. The odds are getting better, (that) come November, you'll get a taste of a new and controversial trend-- electronic voting.
In 1998, only 7% of all U.S. counties used electronic voting machines. Then came the 2000 Florida fiasco, and in its wake, the so-called Help America Vote Act of 2002.
Now, in order to qualify for millions of dollars in Federal funds, states are pinning their hopes on electronic voting machines, manufactured by private companies like Diebold, ("Dee-bold") and Sequoyah. The result-- in the next presidential election, roughly 1 in 3 of us will use one.
But critics have found all sorts of flaws with these machines, from software security concerns, to the complete lack of a paper trail to verify votes. These machines cannot be recounted.
In Riverside County, California, an incumbent mysteriously pulled ahead after the voting machine company employees stopped the tally to tinker with the machines.
In Iowa [graphic shows "Allamakee County, Iowa"], machines in one precinct returned 4 million votes-- when only 300 actual voters turned out.
In San Diego, election officials reportedly turned to teenagers to reboot their malfunctioning machines.
Woman to Man, both huddled over a Voter Card Writer: I think we're on the wrong screen.
And in Florida, a computer crash erased the records from Miami-Dade's first widespread use of touchscreen voting machines-- all data from the the 2002 gubernatorial primary is gone.
[end Video]
Dean: There are two problems. One, there's no paper trail which means you can't verify your vote, and it can't be recounted. The other potentially serious problem: tampering and rigging of elections. We asked Diebold, one of the companies that makes these machines, and Florida Secretary of State Glenda Hood to appear on this program. They both turned us down.
But Bev Harris is here. She's a crusader who thinks this is a disaster waiting to happen. Bev, you've made a potentially blockbuster statement. In under 2 minutes, you can hack into an electronic voting system, and change the results of an election with almost no chance of being caught. Bev Harris, how did you discover this?
Bev Harris, Executive Director of 'Black Box Voting':Well, I found the software that they were keeping secret, as a proprietary trade secret, and I found it on the Web quite by accident, and I worked with several different computer scientists who were very helpful in terms of analyzing the weaknesses. One of them had designed accounting software before. And of course, counting votes is just a form of bookkeeping. And right away he could see the weaknesses in it, and he kind of walked me through it like an AOL tech might walk you through something on the phone, he showed me how to rig an election.
Dean: If this is so easy to do, what in the world are we doing relying on this technology all over the country?
Harris: We need to get in there, and we need to actually demonstrate to some of the officials who are making these decisions, how easy it is. Because they're really relying too much on the vendors.
Dean: Bev sat me down, and in a few short seconds I was amazed at what I could do.
[Begin video:]
Dean: All right, Bev, show me how to do this.
Harris: Well, What we have here is the central tabulator computer. Now in a voting system you have all these different voting machines at all the different polling places, sometimes, as in a county like mine, there's a thousand polling places in one county.
All those machines feed into the one machine so it can add up all the votes. So of course if you were going to do something you shouldn't, to a voting machine, would it be more convenient to do it to the 4000 machines or to just come in here to one machine and deal with all of them at once?
What surprises people is the central tabulator is just a PC. It's like you and I use, it uses Windows, it's just a regular computer.
Dean: So anybody who can hack into a PC, can hack into the central tabulator.
Harris: The GEMS program is the program that is the central tabulator program. And I'm going to put in a password here. OK, we're in. Now this is the official program that the county supervisor sees.
Dean: Is this the Diebold program?
Harris: Yes, this is a Diebold central tabulation program.
Dean: OK.
Harris: And then go to 'Election Summary Report', It's gonna-- we're in spin for a minute, while it adds up all the votes from all the different precincts.
And as we can see here, Howard Dean has a thousand votes, and Lex Luther (sic) has 500 so you're beating Lex Luther and we're--
Dean [gleefully]: --Two to one!--
Harris: --Yes, and Tiger Woods unfortunately doesn't have any votes yet.
Dean: All right.
Harris: All right, let's close this out. I was just showing you the legitimate way to go in and look at votes, which of course--
Dean: --All right--
Harris: --you can't tamper with.
Go to the Start Menu, and I'm going to show you something tricky. And I want you to go to 'My Computer' and just click that, and you're going to see something come up, go to...
Harris: ...'Local Disc C:' and go to 'Program Files'. And on Program Files we're going to go to 'GEMS', which is the name of the Diebold program...
We're going to go to 'LocalDB', which stands for 'Local Database, that's where they keep the votes. And by the way, this has been out on the Internet for ages now.
Harris: Go to 'Central Tabulator Votes', which is the database we just looked at...
...and then go to the 'Sum of the Candidates', which is that table.
We're going to go to 'LocalDB', which stands for 'Local Database, that's where they keep the votes. And by the way, this has been out on the Internet for ages now.
Harris: Go to 'Central Tabulator Votes', which is the database we just looked at...
...and then go to the 'Sum of the Candidates', which is that table.
Harris: You see we have 800 votes here for you, and 400 for Lex Luthor-- Let's just flip those. We'll make that 400... and we'll give a hundred votes to Tiger.
Harris: Let's just see what happened here. We'll go back into GEMS the legitimate way, you're the county supervisor, you're checking on the progress of your election, and as you can see now, Howard Dean only has 500 votes, Lex Luther has 900 and Tiger Woods has 100 votes.
Dean: Hm.
Harris: We just edited an election, it took us 90 seconds.
[end video]
Dean: Bev Harris, this really points out why it's important to have a paper trail-- so people can't alter the results. What is being done around the country to deal with this?
Harris: Well, there are some places where they are working on it. Kevin Shelley's had some real backbone and he's been fighting the battle in California. In the state of Ohio they have now mandated the paper ballot. But... not enough, and we've got an election coming up this fall where we may have as many as 30% of America voting on machines that can't be recounted or audited.
Dean: I'm glad you gave Kevin Shelley a plug. We have Kevin Shelley, the Secretary of the State of California. You're using e-voting in California. Why?
Kevin Shelley, California Secretary of State: In terms of California, Governer Dean, why we're doing what we're doing, you know we're the only state in the entire country right now that has standards in place for a voter-verified paper trail. I think it is absolutely essential that the voter have the opportunity to confirm his or her vote. Not only so it can be used for recount purposes at a later time, but also so that you know, and have-- the voter has the confidence, that their vote will be correctly counted as they intended it, as it was cast.
Dean: How are you going to prevent hacking and fraud, though. You saw what Bev was able to coach me to do in 90 seconds. How do you-- what-- do you have a mechanism in California to stop that?
Shelley: We absolutely do. As you may know, Governor, in a number of instances, we banned certain machines-- the Diebold TSX machine-- in a number of our counties, including San Diego, which was one of the topics of your piece. Beyond that, we've required very strict security measures. Not only, the source code be made available to us, by the vendor, and we've demanded it, and we've received it, the only state to do so, but also each voter having the option of voting on paper, as well as, security measures with the machinery itself. Two specific measures that would prevent the situation that Bev just was demonstrating to you-- we demand that, and require, that the results be posted at the polling place, so that you can't later change the results of that particular polling place when the officials at the master computer are counting them. Secondly, we also ensure that there is a paper receipt. Now, it's not a voter-verified paper receipt, which is what we would prefer, but a paper receipt that is immediately produced at the conclusion of the polling hours, so that before it gets counted at the main location, that can be referred to, that has the actual results on it.
Dean: Kevin, I spoke to Bill Bradbury, who's the Secretary of State of Oregon, and apparently, in Oregon they have a law that says you cannot use any voting machines, unless the voting machines can be recounted, which of course would cancel out any use of any of these kinds of machines.
Talk to me, and Bev, jump in here too, about states that you think are-- that either of you think are, at very high risk for a, "polluted" if you will, voting result, come November, and states that have really done their job and that are pretty good bets for when voters go to the polls, their actual votes are gonna be counted the way that they should.
Shelley: Let me speak to that, Governor, if I may, because I think we've taken very aggressive steps here in California, and I came very close, as Ms. Harris knows, to just banning all the machines outright, and we did ban them in certain instances, and in others we put in security measures. But I--
Harris:--But the security measures aren't really in. This is one of my concerns, is the exact hack that I showed Governor Dean, is still in place in the brand-new software, and in fact I had that demonstrated by a county supervisor the other day. And we found exactly that back door. So, we still have a ways to go.
Dean: All right, let me ask you both a very tough question--
Harris: --It's vulnerable.--
Dean: Do you, Kevin Shelley, and Bev, do you consider the election in two thousand-- November election in 2004, that's coming up, for President of the United States, do you consider that to be a safe election, which is unlikely to-- which is likely to give us the results that that indicate who the next President of the United States is?
Harris: Unfortunately, I think we have a high probability of Florida-style meltdown in multiple states, because we have not put the procedures in place that we need to have in place in all the states.
Dean: Kevin?
Shelley: You know, in your setup piece that showed that election official in Florida with the magnifying glass looking at that chad-producing punchcard ballot, I don't wanna see officials trying to hoist up an electronic voting machine on November 3rd, trying to look into the software, so I think that it's important that everyone take aggressive security measures, ban the machines where necessary. You never can have 100% perfection, but I think we need to take aggressive approaches. That's not being done now, I think we have taken a very aggressive approach in California, and we would call on others throughout the country to follow our lead.
Dean: Kevin Shelley, thank you so much, Bev Harris, thanks very much--
Harris and Shelley: Thank you.
Dean: Ask your local officials-- is your voting safe? The answer may surprise you.
Video:
May 3, 2016 – Citizens protesting election fraud to try to protect their voter's rights at the Board of Elections meeting in New York City. NY activist Elliot Crown points out that ALL 5 boroughs of NYC where Clinton won this year have MACHINE VOTING.
Of course the elections are rigged; how do you think Trump won? It certainly wasn't the will of the people!
ReplyDeleteBut it was okay when Obama won with rigged elections????You didn't see all the whining, crying and protesting by the people who didn't want Obama as President, did you!!!
ReplyDeleteObama won the popular vote, TWICE! AND THERE WAS EIGHT YEARS OF CRYING AND WHINING THEREAFTER! You're STILL crying and whining about it, even after he's gone! Face it, you'll NEVER have the legitimacy you so desperately crave; for that you have to win BY A MAJORITY!
Delete9:12, do you have a credible citation for "Obama's rigged elections?"
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 9:12.....and probably Obama's crowd size at both his inaugurations was rigged, too? Maybe our eyes deceived us?
ReplyDeleteYour claims of rigged elections in 2012 are dead wrong.
ReplyDeleteIn Palm Beach County Florida, 605,268 out of 870,182 registered voters cast ballots. That's a voter turnout rate of 69.56%. How did you get 141%? Calculator broken?
Too bad you can't even name the county in Ohio where Obama supposedly got 108% of the vote. That's because it doesn't exist.
In Wood County Ohio, turnout was 64,342 out of 108,014. That's less than 60%. If you don't believe me, go check the election results.
While you are checking the results, look at the precinct votes in Wood County. Obama did not get 100% of the vote in any precinct.
In St. Lucie county, the ballot was two pages. With 175,574 registered voters, 247,713 pages were turned in. Please explain why it's fraudulent to turn in both pages of your ballot.
The one true thing you said is that there are precincts in Philadelphia where nobody voted for Romney. That's not a "mathematical impossibility," though. They just didn't like Romney. How would you actually prove fraud? Easy. Find even a single person who claims to have voted for Romney in one of those districts. I bet you can't. See this article: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/178742021.html
How's the Palm Beach County and Broward County looking today, The Dems are trying to pull 4 elections out of their A@@'s. It is happening again, it's part of the Democratic way of winning elections, if you don't get the votes, then cheat with the counts after the election, and if you still don't win JUST RESIST for 2 or 4 years!
DeleteIf you want to keep the population under control, it's important to keep repeating a lie until the public accepts it as a truth.
ReplyDeleteThat's why it's necessary to see the citations for these claims.
The truth is going to have a very tough swim against Trump's tsunami of lies! That's how they do it; throw so much BS at us that we are overwhelmed! The solution is to hold them accountable EVERY TIME, and let not one lie go unanswered!
ReplyDeleteSnopes give the widely-circulated list of 2012 voting irregularities a big red FALSE but then goes on to debunk only 8 on the list. It doesn’t even mention the other items on the list. Why?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/2012fraud.asp
In some spots, the list originated by American Freedom Party had been changed, for example “Obama won in every state that did not require a Photo ID” was there in the original but the addition ”and lost in every state that did require a Photo ID in order to vote.” was not.
“In Wood County Ohio, 106,258 voted in a county with only 98,213 eligible voters.” Snopes gives no explanation on where these figures came from. 106,258 was the count of eligible voters from September 17th of the same year as published by a Cleveland newspaper, the Plain Dealer. 98,213 was the 2010 Census count of the population over 18 living in the county. This is just somebody not realizing you can register to vote in a county you don't live in if you find that more convenient, which apparently several thousand people there did, plus the population of that county has grown since 2010, too.
Here Snopes is caught with a typo: “In Ohio County, Obama won by 108% of the total number of eligible voters.” The original list said “In AN Ohio county…” It referred to the Wood County puzzling figures mentioned above.
“In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, Obama received 100% of the votes with not even a single vote recorded for Romney.” They relied on a liberal newspaper to answer that, “That result was hardly surprising given that, as the Philadelphia Inquirer noted, those wards are "clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia" and "nationally, 93 percent of African Americans voted for Obama." The news article that reported this in the Inquirer says they tried to contact some of the few registered republican voters in one of these 100% districts but couldn't reach any. Sounds like they didn't try very hard.
What about all the other fraud claims that Snopes never addresses? Here is a partial list of those:
According to the Election Protection Coalition, voters across the United States reported more than 70,000 voting problems by 5 PM Eastern time on election day.
Prior to the election, voters in the states of Nevada, North Carolina, Texas and Ohio all reported that voting machines were switching their votes for Romney over to Obama.
In Upper Macungie Township, near Allentown, Pa., an auditor, Robert Ashcroft, was dispatched by Republicans to monitor the vote on Election Day. He said the software he observed would “change the selection back to default – to Obama.” He said that happened in about 5 percent to 10 percent of the votes.
Republican poll watchers were illegally removed from several districts. (The Washington Examiner was able to list several of them by precinct.)
In Ohio, two election judges were caught allowing unregistered voters to cast ballots.
Many Ohio voters that showed up at the polls on election day were surprised when they were informed that they had already voted. In fact, there were reports all over the nation of people being unable to vote because records showed that they had already voted.
Prior to election day, an Obama-for-America staffer was caught on video trying to help someone register to vote in more than one state.
Snopes revised the page in question January 2013. They could have expanded their list in that time, but they obviously desire to keep their conclusion about the list as "false" instead of "partly true." I wish they would explain why they thought other items on the list weren't worth looking into.
How many is "many?" Words like "many" or phrases like "people are saying" are typical propeganda tools, designed to give the impression that the numbers are larger than they are. These accusations of voter fraud, and the lack of faith they're intended to cause, benefit one party; the GOP. There have ALWAYS been slightly fewer Republicans than everyone else in America, and the margin grows wider every year. Low voter turnout, whether caused by apathy or suppression, is the ONLY way a Republican can become President. And the GOP knows it.
DeleteThe only evident election rigging was by hacks, leaks, and fake news reports, in the election just concluded, and they were all against the Democratic candidate, courtesy of WikiLeaks and Vladimir Putin. However, I personally don't believe that invalidated the outcome; the invalidation of both candidates came even before their nominations.
ReplyDeleteSo I guess the rule of thumb is that any claimed voting irregularities that seem to benefit a Democrat party candidate should automatically be discounted as lies immediately. While any that seem to benefit a Republican candidate is obviously truthful enough to be published as is without question or further research.
DeleteExactly!
DeleteThe two central issues with "voter fraud" are: 1) the probity of the officials and 2) the accountability of electronic voting systems.
In Wisconsin, the recall of Scott Walker failed because the clerk of the county I grew up in manipulated the count in his favor. She of course was a tool of the Koch brothers. And any time you get over 100% of the registered voters, you're looking at a corrupt elections official buggering the system.
Unless electronic machines have a paper trail, they cannot be trusted to ever have delivered an honest vote. The classic example was the election of Senator Chuck Hagel, voted into office when Nebraska converted to electronic voting-- and used the machine his company invented!
Springfield VT News: I know this is your site, but most of us come here for "REAL NEWS" with common Springfield interests. This "subject" is best debated on infowars or Fox, not here, NOT the right forum.
DeleteAnd thanks for posting REAL Springfield News (at times).
UPDATE: 11/6/18- Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker loses to Democrat. Justice served, Chuck.
DeleteWho ever said conservatives don't believe in recycling? Come on, guys, you can do better than this!
ReplyDeleteHey snowflakes, Get ready for the 2nd BLUE WAVE.....BLUE WAVE OF TEARS as the Republicans hold both the Senate and House!!!! I'll be popping the champagne about 9pm....YIPPEE!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI can't wait to see Trumps tax returns.
DeleteWe won't have to wait long! How's that champagne tasting, 1:46? A little flat, I'm thinking!
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ReplyDeleteElection equipment | Ballot boxes | Voting booths