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Bernie Sanders’ Claim (Where Fake News Comes From)
By John McClaughry, Vice president of the Ethan Allen Institute, Montpelier, VT
Our own Bernie Sanders issued a tweet last month that attracted national attention.
Glenn Kessler runs the Washington Post fact checker page. He wrote “”we looked at this tweet from Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders: “As Republicans try to repeal the Affordable Care Act, they should be reminded every day that 36,000 people will die yearly as a result.”
“Sanders obtained the figure of 36,000 from a calculation by ThinkProgress, a left-leaning website, according to his aides. Essentially, ThinkProgress assumed that repeal will result in 29.8 million people losing their insurance and that one person will die for every 830 people who lose their insurance. That yields a number of 35,903.
“The number of 29.8 million comes from an Urban Institute report that assumes Republicans will repeal parts of the law through the reconciliation process without outlining any replacement plan, thus leading to a near collapse of the nongroup insurance market. That’s a pretty big assumption.
“Sanders has tweeted as a definite fact an estimate that a) assumes Republicans will gut Obamacare without a replacement b) assumes the worst possible impact from that policy and c) assumes that data derived from the Massachusetts experience can be applied across the United States.
Those are three very big assumptions. Take away any one of them, and Sanders’s claim that repeal of the law will cause 36,000 people to die a year falls apart.
The Washington Post Fact Checker gave Sanders a maximum of Four Pinocchios.
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SANDERS RAILS AGAINST TRUMP, GOP IN SPRINGFIELD MAR. 17, 2017, 4:48 AM BY ALAN J. KEAYS 7 COMMENTS U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., took questions from a long line of people at a town hall meeting Thursday night at Riverside Middle School in Springfield. Photo by Alan Keays/VTDigger SPRINGFIELD – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., urged a crowd of more than 1,500 here to join the fight against President Donald Trump’s budget plan, which he said would hurt those who could least afford it. The senator told people to get involved, run for office and engage voters who backed the Republican businessman’s run for the White House. Sanders, an independent from Vermont, took part in a town hall-style forum Thursday night in front of a standing room only audience packed into the gymnasium at Riverside Middle School. “This is a fantastic crowd. We had a hard time finding a parking place,” Sanders said after taking the stage. “Democracy is alive and well in Springfield.” The senator was greeted by well-wishers who said they supported his 2016 bid for president. One man, wearing a “Bernie 2016” T-shirt, told the senator that he was his hero. While the crowd came to see Sanders, Trump was on the minds of many who disagreed with the new president on the issues “I know a lot of people who are really hard workers, good living people who voted for Trump,” said Matt Bean, 23, of Claremont, New Hampshire. “It blows my mind … What is the best way to talk to these people and tell them, ‘You can’t keep voting against your own self-interest.’” Sanders said he has found some areas of common ground with those who supported the new president. “If you go to West Virginia, if you go to states all over this country where Trump won, people there don’t have horns, they are not hurtful, awful people,” Sanders said. “In many cases, they’re really hard working people, worried about their kids and they didn’t see an alternative,” he added. “They did not see the Democrats come up with the kind of alternatives that made sense to them.” Many Trump supporters, according to Sanders, are working class people who don’t believe in tax breaks for billionaires, or support cuts to Social Security, Medicaid or Medicare. He encouraged people in the crowd to listen to friends who backed Trump. “Get outside your comfort zone … Try to go outside just the people you agree with, your own friends,” the senator told the crowd. “Start breaking into conversations with people who are glued to Fox television.” Sanders’ harshest criticism of Trump and Republicans in Congress focused on GOP-backed health care legislation. Sanders said if approved, millions of Americans would lose health insurance currently provided under the Affordable Care Act, passed during President Barack Obama’s administration. “Let us be clear, if anybody wants to quote me on this, quote me on this,” he said. “Thousands of people will die if they lose their health insurance and are unable to go to the doctor or cannot afford to go to the hospital when they need to. “A lot more people will die from this legislation than died from the tragedy of 9/11,” Sanders said. George Karabakakis, CEO of Health Care and Rehabilitation Services, told Sanders that there is a crisis in Vermont of people suffering from mental health and substance abuse issues, homelessness and poverty. A repeal of the Affordable Care Act, he said, would make it worse. “We don’t need to build walls,” he told Sanders. “We need to break down walls. What can we do? This is really serious.” Sanders said the Republican-backed health care legislation is now even starting to lose GOP support, partly due to the heat that party’s members are getting from the public. He said Vermont’s congressional delegation is in agreement in opposing a repeal of the Affordable Care Act, and encouraged people to contact congressional members who support the repeal from outside the state and let their voices be heard. “They’re in trouble because the American people are catching on as to what a disaster this is,” Sanders said to cheers. “Donald Trump is learning how complicated health care is.” The senator hit on themes Thursday night that catapulted him to the Democratic Party presidential nomination last year, including income inequality, free college tuition at state colleges and universities, and universal health care coverage. Sanders was eventually beat out for the nomination by former secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, who lost to Trump in the general election. Vermont provided Sanders with his largest margin of victory in Democratic presidential primary season last year: He topped Clinton 85 percent to 13 percent. The Springfield town hall event Thursday night capped the first of a two-day series of events the senator is holding across Vermont. He started earlier Thursday with town hall meetings in St. Johnsbury. He’ll end with a town hall meeting at 3 p.m. Friday at Vermont Technical College in Randolph. The town hall meeting in Springfield started with a panel of four people telling Sanders about issues important to them and challenges they face. They included Tim Ford, president and CEO of Springfield Medical Care Systems; Cathleen Corliss of the Springfield Area Parent Child Center; Mark Curran, founder and co-owner Black River Produce; and Matt Powers, a senior at Springfield High School. Powers talked about trying to decide where to go to college, and more importantly, how he’s going to pay for it. Sanders, introducing Powers, noted how the student takes part in extracurricular activities, including track and field. Bernie Sanders Matt Bean of Claremont, New Hampshire, shows his support for U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., on his T-shirt on Thursday night prior to a town hall meeting at Riverside Middle School in Springfield. Photo by Alan Keays/VTDigger “I did that too,” Sanders told him. Then, the senator listed off more of Powers’ accomplishment and activities, included National Honor Society. “That I didn’t do,” Sanders said, drawing laughter. John Sarna, 60, who works in a manufacturing facility in Bellows Falls, said health care, and making sure people can afford it and have access to it, is a major reason for his support of Sanders, and why he turned out to hear Thursday. “Everyone is concerned about the future of medical care,” he said. “It’s nice to know that people are fighting for care for everybody.” Republicans weren’t the only ones feeling the sting from Sanders or the people in the crowd Thursday night. One man told the senator that all elected officials need to be held accountable for the dysfunction in Washington, D.C. “We need to find a way to come together instead of the party politics, keep that crap out of it,” he said. “Tackle the issues like you try to do … A lot of Democrats don’t want to look at the issues, it’s not just Donald Trump.” “Absolutely correct,” the senator responded, before thanking the crowd for making him the longest serving independent member of Congress in history. Sanders added that years ago when Democrats controlled the presidency and both houses of Congress they didn’t take on the pharmaceutical companies to reduce drug prices or negotiate trade deals in the best interest of American workers. “I think Democrats are far better than Republicans,” he said, “but I’m not here to defend everything Democrats do.” Sanders was also asked if the time has passed for the Democratic Party. “I think we can all agree that the last election cycle was nothing short of a disaster, I can’t be anymore blunt,” a questioner told Sanders. “Is it time for the Democratic Party to go away and have new progressive agenda rise up from its ashes?” Sanders replied that on Friday morning he was planning to talk with the new national chairman of the Democratic Party and would relay that message. “In my view the Democratic Party needs to be fundamentally restructured,” the senator added. “We need to be a grassroots party with relatively young people and working people to help set the direction. Absolutely.” A woman told Sanders his run for the presidency inspired her to make her on bid last year for state representative, eventually losing her first election by 40 votes. “The first time I ran I got only 2 percent of the vote,” Sanders told her. “You did better than I did.” The senator said that a reason he often hears from people why they don’t run for office, whether on the local, state or federal level, is because they don’t feel qualified. “My response is always, ‘I work in the United States Senate, and if you think you don’t know enough, work with some of my colleagues,” he said. “We need people who feel strongly about issues … You can do it, you really can.” Bernie Sanders A crowd of about 1,500 people filled Riverside Middle School in Springfield on Thursday night for a town hall meeting hosted by U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. Photo by Alan Keays/VTDigger
Another gratuitous performance of fear mongering and class envy from a lifelong, on-the-dole gas bag who has never known a day of real work in his life. Count on Sanders to bring his political sideshow to desperate towns like Springfield, where he knows there will be a big appetite for the "free" snake oil remedies that he's been hawking for decades. Then it's back to the cushy life in DC or the Lake Champlain lake house. Just another carnival barker who's preyed on the hapless victims of his self-serving political puffery for far too long.
ReplyDeleteAnd what is Teflon Don ?
Delete^ AMEN and massive kudos to the above post!!!!!
ReplyDeleteTrump has accomplished far more to benefit working class Americans in his first 2 months in politics than Sanders has in 30 years. Please, can anyone name one, damn thing Sanders has accomplished that benefits working class Vermonters? Please, just one thing. At what point do these hapless, underachievers finally catch on and fully comprehend Sanders will never deliver Jack Squat?
hit the nail on the head right there
ReplyDeleteYou conservatives talk on and on about what Trump has done for working people in his few weeks in office. NAME ONE SPECIFIC THING. Trump has never done anything for anyone except Trump. He spent HIS entire life SCREWING working people, while building hotels and golf courses for the wealthy. What has he done as President? NOTHING, except cause our enemies to mock us, and our allies to distrust us! With every one of his insane Twitter rants, we lose credibility around the globe; and it's only a matter of time before his policies start screwing a lot of the people who voted for him. Think I'm wrong? I knew a lot of Bush supporters who had the same delusional beliefs about W, until they lost their jobs, all the equity in their homes, and watched helplessly as their investments dried up and blew away! They were cursing him by the time he left office. And Trump is worse. WAY WORSE. Bernie is the most popular political figure in America. Trump? Not so much.
DeleteGoat Rustler: How do you know that the above posts are not from rich and wealthy people who play on Trumps golf havens and stay in Trumps gold lined hotels ??
DeleteI guess you didn't want to take the time to list all of Sanders accomplishments in tour empty rebuttal.
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DeleteAnon. 1:25, nobody around here has that much money, NOBODY! You people don't even have a CLUE as to how much the 1% actually has! I DO. When you see a billionaire throw 50k in cash at someone's head, and not ask for it back, JUST TO PISS THEM OFF, then you'll know what REAL money looks like! (It was the piano player at the Drake Hotel, she made 100k in TIPS that night.) By the way, these very same people mocked Trump daily, his "wealth" was chump change to them. So, Springfield Conservatives, get off your high horses; you're closer to the "scammers" and "bums" than you are to the top. A LOT CLOSER! I'll tell you one thing Bernie does; he makes sure that the State of Vermont gets more in Federal dollars that it pays in taxes, so you can stop whining about that, too.
DeleteGee Goater, I didn't mean to make you mad.
DeleteSounds like Goat Rustler was in the front row of this event, Bernie is for Bernie, and building followers, Bernie is not looking out for the best for all American's. His liberal policies go over well in the liberal socialist state, the only reason he was making a big showing is because is opponent with Hillary the "evil witch" from Arkansas whom the American people have seen right through. Trump may not be the best choice, but given the alternative's in Nov of 2016 the "right" choice.
DeleteI don't think there are many rich people I Vermont taking advantage of Trumps policies. Sanders is a socialist with 3 luxurious homes. He is full of hot air. Another AL Gore..
ReplyDeleteWhat an old bag, spouting off, never held a real job in his life... why would his followers get a job... their just following his lead... live off the government at the expense of the working tax payers...
ReplyDeleteAlot of his followers have jobs-those paid by us taxpayers. So they already get top of the line health care, time off, FML etc-they are teachers. Perhaps they should see what it is like for us that are forced to spend thousands per year on health premiums.
ReplyDeleteI voted for Trump because the cost of my medical insurance will go down.
ReplyDeleteAnd I want preserve clean air and water.
How many people have forgotten that Bernie is a wealthy new yorker
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