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Thursday, February 23, 2012
Coal plant vs. Biomass plant emissions
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Funny how these charts were put together by the special interest group nobiomassburning.org. I would rather stick with an independent, unbiased study.
ReplyDeleteDolt,
DeleteI don't want a coal plant in N. Springfield either.
The numbers are from the air permit application by the developers. This is factual data and cannot be dismissed.
DeleteThe developers last night admitted in front of 200 people that the emissions are worse than coal.
It doesn't benefit anyone to hide their hides in the sand.
If you are okay with particulate emissions higher than coal, that is fine. But please don't pretend that's not the reality.
They did no such thing. They stated that the recovery system will contain. 99%+ of emissions.
DeleteI am paying attention.
DeleteNeither Biomass Or Coal Burning are good ways to make electricity.
neither concept is even close to healthy.
Why can't they build one in their own state again?
Actually, I was at the meeting and their air emissions 'expert' DID agree that this plant would be dirtier than the coal plant cited. He said it wasn't a fair comparison because that was a really good coal plant, but he did agree that it was cleaner than this.
DeleteDon't obscure the facts- it really undermines your cause.
Yeah right. Whatever you say. You must have been at a different meeting than I was or you stepped out to hug a tree
DeleteUhh.. The Mt. Tom coal plant is DIRTY and ruins the landscape. Comparing ANYTHING to it is a caution.
DeleteAlso, the coal comes in on a train, not a bazillion trucks per day. N. Springfield has no train.
Holyoke Ma, where Mt Tom is, has recently been reported on having several comparisons to Springfield Vt.
A biomass / coal plant comparison seems to be the white collar crime comparison between the two towns.
And the biomass is more dirty.
Another win for the Donut team.
Let's just put hundred wind turbines along the top of hawk mountain. Oh wait a sec. Probably ruin someone's view.
ReplyDeleteI have a second home in springfield because I like to escape the dirty air next to bridgeport ct - soot, smokestacks, stinky air, trucks - i'm talking about springfield not bridgeport. it's a crying shame that springfield ends up becoming the armpit of vermont. the folks in kilington and stowe get the clean air and trails and springfield gets 140 foot stack spewing dirty residues. the tradewinds should put it right over my house. I would sell my house but nothing is selling in springfield. this plant is the nail in the coffin.
ReplyDeleteThank you.for emphasizing my point. Don't want to ruin your clean air and Rockwell like living. Just remember us little.folk that have to support all the town services as primary homeowners. Because people like you don't want any business in town. And pay a lesser tax rate as a second homeowner.
ReplyDeleteYou are not what you say you are.
DeleteYou are part of the Biomass effort.
You're not a little folk that has to support all the town services as primary homeowners.
That entire thought is a public relations 101 anonymous agent provocateur convoluted bio gass.
i know what my neighbors pay for property taxes and I pay a lot more than they do for similar houses. look up the homestead act before you outcast someone that actually likes and enjoys springfield. why would I buy a house there? i am a union member hard working u.s.a a citizen just like you. I spend my time in springfield, eat there, shop there and I have no kids in springfield school system because I live in ct. reality is that I pay top tier taxes and use little services. I knew enough about trade winds to know that the plant is directly down wind from me. The thought of a tall stack in springfield spewing fumes is revolting. the operators will tell you that its clean but thats what they said about the vernon nuke plant that is streaming rado material in the river. vt should be working deals for canada hyrdo instead of burning the forests down. seems springfield residents will sell their sole for some jobs so that would make me an actual proponent of sprinfield's environmental welfare and self image. go figure.
DeleteI am a Springfield native who moved back here to enjoy the beautiful natural environment. I do like trees very much and am not ashamed to admit it. I don't know why any Vermonter would come out against trees. Anyway I agree with everything you are saying. When I lived in Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York our family home was considered a second home and I paid higher taxes because I didn't get the income adjustments that people who have their primary home here get.
DeleteLol..that's a good one. I'm.a 50 year old resident of Springfield. How long have you been here as a resident? Oh wait. How long have you been a part.time resident?
ReplyDeleteIt seems that the rumors of Springfield's demise are not that premature after all. The town's death spiral continues thanks to the NIMBYs, Luddites, Chicken Littles, and other alarmists that have plagued the town in its post industrial decline. It's time to realize that without industry, Springfield is just another pathetic town with no uniquely redeeming qualities that is rudderless and adrift, merely keeping its head above water by being on state and federal funding doles.
ReplyDeleteResidents whose parents and grandparents settled here and worked in the machine tool shops and foundries, earned decent incomes, bought or built homes, raised families, supported quality schools, and contributed to the economic vitality of the area can testify to the benefits that industrial development brought to Springfield in the first two thirds of the 20th century.
But now, 30 years or more removed from those days, a generation of "progressively schooled" (we can't say "educated") lemmings have become so accustomed to sucking off the teats of government and its "clean" regime that anything that comes with a bit of grit, dust, oil, or dirt is met with absolute paranoia and hysteria. Objectivity is immediately eclipsed by sensationalism and doomsday prophecies in the hopes that sowing fear will deter legitimate ideas for the economic progress Springfield sorely needs.
It’s far past time for Springfield to embrace jobs providing economic initiatives like this one because one day in the not too distant future the fiscal realities and indebtedness of this nation are going to surface with a vengeance and all those individuals, towns, cities, and states that have been so beholden to the doling out of government paychecks and other subsidies are going to be sorely disappointed when those handouts are no more.
Dude, you missed the point.
DeleteFirst off, you are right about almost everything you say. Respectfully, you say it well too.
The concept here is not "economic initiative" it is burning 20,000 acres of woods a year and sucking 500 gallons of water out of the Black River Watershed
Once again, you are letting your emotions run wild. There are abundant natural resources available to support this. You make it sound as if Vermont and surrounding states will be deforested and rivers and lakes will be drained because of this one plant. Nothing could be farther from the truth. If landowners desire to sell their timber on the open market for this purpose, that is their perogative as private property owners. It is also a potential outlet for the lower quality debris and discards left behind from lumbering. Areas that were pasturelands a century ago could be reopened for other uses such as community supported agriculture or developed for new neighborhoods or businesses, adding greater diversity to the local and surrounding economies. Springfield has much to gain by the responsible implementation of this legitimate economic investment.
DeleteWell, I'd love to have them install solar and generate electricity that way. Much cleaner and, done right, could actually attract much more progressive businesses to the area.
DeleteThe reason they won't do it? It won't add enough $$ to Winstanley's pocket. THAT is the bottom line.
for you it's easy to complain how wretched your town is. why dont you do something about it and open a crafts company and put poeple to work? a lot of industrial towns are in decline all over the nation. you need solutions not complaints. springfield is located in a great place between forests, resorts and recreation. open a tourist area. open a tax friendly software and tech development zone. open agra growing buildings. putting people to work to burn the forest down is counter productive all of the other initiatives springfield could do. do you think people will want to buy homes in springfield when it gets compared to bridgeport ct? the burn project is penny wise and pound foolish. springfield needs a vision not a wood burning plant. I dont care how clean they say it will be, burning wood stinks. I smell it all the time from my neighbors wood burning who also is up wind from me. springfield should get approval from the state for tax free zone to compete with nh. nh is sucking springfield dry. trust me on that one.
Deletemake Downtown a Tax Free Zone
Deletebrilliant
We had all those tech jobs, IBM wanted to build here and the town said no, they moved to Essex. Arrow shirts wanted to come here the town said no. We're a machine tool town. They moved south because of the expense of heating. They aren't coming back. Wish all you Connecticut people.would go back home. And stop destroying our opportunities for jobs and building our tax base. You've made your money. Now go spend it someplace else.
ReplyDeleteyou take all Americans down with talk like that. I thank the u.s.a. for my rights to protect me from people like you. Everyone is a transplant.
DeleteAww. You hurt my feelings. Lol. Yeah. Rights to protect you from people like me. But where are my rights to live in a town that prospers now and into.the future. You all want.to move here to.your own real life Norman Rockwell painting. No business. Nothing but trees and peace and quiet. But unfortunately some.of.us still have to work for a living and without business and all you nimby's Vermont will just be a retirement state for all you city dwellers.
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