Monday, February 9, 2015

Springfield amends sick time accrual policy

The town has changed its sick time accrual policy to avoid running up big, unfunded balances.
http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20150209/NEWS02/702099983

15 comments :

  1. This glaring insensitivity to our municipal employees makes me sick. I just wish I had enough sick time accrued to cover it!

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  2. And they should not get paid for unused sick at retirement. None of the rest of us get that benefit. Vacation yes, sick no.

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    1. Agree, 99% of company policies allow vacation to be accrued.
      Sick pay is NOT carried over year to year. Again Springfield is in the 1% field. SICK, no pun attended.

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  3. chuck gregory2/9/15, 2:51 PM

    Yeah! Let's have a dog in the manger attitude about this! What fun is a race to the bottom if some people are going slower than others? And why stop there? Let's get rid of paid vacations, too! And if any town employee objects to being treated like a peasant, let's just replace him with a real peasant.

    Every man is against sick leave accrual-- until he gets sick.

    People who don't have sick leave should fight for it-- they deserve it, and certainly they deserve it when the sick person happens to be their child.

    When I got sick as a child, if I was lucky, I got to spend the time in the school nurse's office. As a parent, I got a call from the high school saying my son was sick. I told them I'd be there as soon as I got off work. My supervisor called me in: "The union contract says that you can use sick leave to take care of your sick child. It's all right if you do that."

    I was amazed.

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    1. The unions 100% insurance demands did not help the future of this town. Nor will some sneaky clause to carry sick time over help the future of this town.

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    2. the town employees don't have 100% insurance

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    3. its not sneaky, its been this way over 30 years

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    4. 6:18 : I was implying the unions in the shops, like Bryant, Fellows and J&L. If I was able to get paid for all the sick days I did not take, I would have quite a bank roll. But don't take me wrong, those with a long term health issue should be provided for.

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  4. Sick time should not accumulate, use it or lose it. When you retire nothing should be given to you.
    That's how private businesses work and the town should do the same thing.
    This should start with new employees and not effect the existing ones.

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  5. chuck gregory2/9/15, 8:36 PM

    5:21, that's exactly the provision that was in my union's contract. After 25 years, I had accumulated two years of sick time-- and had only used about three weeks of it. ( My kid was very healthy, fortunately.) I didn't get a nickel for it when I retired. There was also a clause that said we could donate our vacation time as sick leave for our co-workers.

    I think the best thing that could have happened to Precision Valley would have been the unions buying the plants and running them as employee-owned cooperatives. They would have known exactly what needed to be done.

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    1. LOL! The inmates surely would have run the asylum into the ground with their incessant squabbling and carping. To imagine otherwise is to defy the reality of the natural tendencies of the union beast - sloth and selfishness!

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    2. chuck gregory2/10/15, 8:13 PM

      There are a large number of employees in Vermont who are in the same boat I used to be in-- with nobody as backup when their child falls ill. Many employers are liberal toward their employees and let them take the time off to handle a crisis, but many are not. For the employees of those latter employers, a union is an absolute necessity.

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    3. chuck gregory2/10/15, 8:16 PM

      Well, in that case, 11:05, the result would have been the same as Textron et al. doing what they did. However, I think that when all the workers realized they would have nobody else to blame and they couldn't strike against anybody but themselves, they would have done excellently as a number of existing employee cooperatives are now doing.

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  6. There is a difference between accumulating sick time from year to year for use when an employee or an employee's child becomes sick, and unused accumulated sick time being paid as a bonus upon retirement.

    I remember a supervisor at Bryant that had spent years as a machine operator, then years as a supervisor. He was never sick. Then he suffered a severe back injury while at home, and his accumulated sick time supported him and his family for over six months while he recovered, and his company supplied medical insurance paid his medical bills. When he returned to work, no one said or thought he had abused the system.

    If sick time cannot be accumulated, how many current employees will use the yearly sick days as extra personal days? How many days must an employee be sick before he needs a doctor's note to return to work? How is the town going to control increased absenteeism as employees use sick days as personal days? Sounds like the new town manager will have some interesting challenges.

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    1. chuck gregory2/11/15, 9:47 PM

      Clearly, 6:18, points which the Best of Springfield do not consider when they make their arguments here.

      As military officers know, if you don't treat the enlisted right, they have ways of getting back at you. Treat workers like scum, and you'll find the business going to hell.

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