Tuesday, February 27, 2018

Committee continues to struggle with options for defunct prison

State Rep. Alice Emmons, D-Windsor 3-2, said Monday that the House Committee on Corrections and Institutions is “struggling” with what to do with the now-defunct Windsor correctional facility, which the state closed Oct. 31 to reduce budget costs.


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  1. The reason they struggle is they think like elected officials and politicians and not creative business people. Alice Emmons LOL

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    1. Please share with us what YOU would do. I say that not expecting to hear anything of substance.

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  2. I don't have enough details to make that call, I have not spent time there assessing the buildings the land or the facilities. But what I would say is that the prisons are not to be the best locations to live nor stay, these people are in prison for a reason. A shaking Prison might be a deterrent to some people and keep them clean. I would think that we need to build a program around teaching these people a trade and also let them earn their stay. Why not bring in contractors to up fit the buildings, and have the inmates that are capable be the grunts, and assist in the up fit. We can bus crews over daily from the one in Springfield and put these guys and gals to work. If they are not capable then let them go on road crew chain gangs and clean up the roads, this will save money on the state crews that do it now. Even pay them minimum wage, so they have something in their pockets when they do get out of prison. Better than them hanging around all day in their cells raping each other and doing drugs they smuggle in. Might make a few of them respectable citizens. Sheriff Appio in Arizona did a great job at it. Maybe he should run for President in 2024 when Trump is done.

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  3. Great photo to caption. I'll go first.

    "I had a nightmare I lost my trust fund and wasn't reelected. I had to get a job!"

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    1. I have a great idea; instead of just complaining all the time, why don't you conservatives run for office? If your ideas are THAT good, you should win. If you lose, you'll know where you stand with the public at large. Or is it that you already know?

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    2. Locally, conservatives run every election. But the ideology self-reliance and individualism is rejected. Wonder why?

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  4. chuck gregory2/27/18, 4:44 PM

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio cost Phoenix $47 million extra for violating basic human and Constitutional rights of prisoners; I don't think his model would work in our little state.

    We could put a lot of people to work just in Springfield-- studies have shown that among those who have absued substances, employment is an effective deterrent and cure. Since we have some $25 million in road and street repairs needed in town, it would be simple to put them to work doing just that. Last summer's Mineral Street sewerage project took all summer long and usually employed 12-14 people every day. I think the cost was around $400,000.

    $25 million could not only result in employing 875 people (what was the capacity of the Windsor facility), but if they were living in Springfield and spending the money in town, they $8,000,000 they'd likely spend here would balloon to over $12 million in economic benefit to the town, given the multiplier effect of money circulating among businesses after it's spent in one.

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  5. I don't think any of the preceding comments understand the task here. The prison has been vacated and, now they are wondering what to do with the campus. Kinda like the closed schools of Springfield...

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  6. I don't think any of the preceding comments understand the task here. The prison has been vacated and, now they are wondering what to do with the campus. Kinda like the closed schools of Springfield...

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  7. Chuck Spouting off more numbers that he can not back up. That might be the cost $47 Mil that the state and Dems that were fighting him threw out, how much crime did he deter by making these prisoners comply, how many did he deter that did not want to go to one of his camps, how much work did he accomplish that the sate would have paid others to do none of those numbers are calculated nor reported.
    I'm for prisoners helping to repave roads, put in sewage pipe rebuild structures.
    Human and Constitutional rights of Prisoners, what about the rights of the people that they took for the crimes they committed, eye for and eye? While in Prion they should be treated fair and human, and not lose their rights, but they should work and pay for the cost of us tax payers housing them and feeding them for their time in prison, pink under wear I'm all for it.

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    1. chuck gregory3/1/18, 8:53 AM

      Roger, your commentary reminds me about the Biblical story of the woman caught in adultery (the Bible never says much about men caught in adultery). Jesus said to the crowd, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

      Jesus knew that none of us is perfect; that we have all sinned and that we should all be prisoners by our own standards, but some of us lucked out. So, it's not a workable or even Christian solution to treat all who have sinned as forever unredeemable, and it makes much more sense to turn them into responsible members of society.

      Jesus' lesson didn't take hold with the crowd that He faced, because a stone arced out of the crowd and struck the woman dead. Jesus looked in astonishment at the thrower and said, "Mom!!!! Why'd you do that?????"

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    2. laughable comment... Jesus also says that we should obey the laws of the land and those in charge. Paraphrasing but check Romans 13...

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  8. I don't think any of the preceding comments understand the task here. The prison has been vacated and, now they are wondering what to do with the campus. Kinda like the closed schools of Springfield...

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    1. My preceding comments were thanking into consideration that the prison was empty, but rebuilding it would be an effort to help with the prison over crowding in VT and the need to not build a new one, since this location is permitted already for this type of location. Thank You!

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  9. Chuck must get his facts and numbers from Brian Williams, or CNN clinton news network .

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    1. Their facts and numbers are far more credible/factual than Fox News Entertainment's.....

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  10. Says who? CNN MSBN, CBS, BRIAN WILLIAMS, Joy Behar, Susan Rice, Jimmy Kimmel, Rosie O'donell, Nancy Pelosi? pick a card any card! lmao

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    1. You forgot Oprah the woman that can save the World and replace Barack the first coming savor!

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