The Vermont House gave final approval to a package of gun ownership restrictions Tuesday night while opponents clad in orange hunting vests packed the State House.
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Vermont House approves new gun restrictions
| March 28, 2018
By WILSON RING
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Gun control opponents wearing hunter orange pack the gallery in the Vermont House of Representatives on Tuesday in Montpelier. (AP Photo/Wilson Ring)
MONTPELIER — The Vermont House gave final approval to a package of gun ownership restrictions Tuesday night while opponents clad in orange hunting vests packed the State House.
Lawmakers voted 89-54 to pass legislation that would raise the legal age for gun purchases, expand background checks for private gun sales and ban high-capacity magazines and rapid-fire devices known as bump stocks. The vote fell primarily along party lines.
Gun control opponents argued that the measure was unconstitutional and would do nothing to protect schoolchildren.
The demonstration came three days after an estimated 2,500 students and supporters held a rally outside the State House in support of gun safety measures.
Speaking at a State House news conference, Republican Gov. Phil Scott said he understood that he has disappointed many of his supporters with his stance backing some form of gun restrictions but realized he had an obligation to do something after a teenager was arrested last month for plotting to shoot up the Fair Haven Union High School.
“It’s a tremendous responsibility as governor to make sure that you protect the citizens of the state so this isn’t an easy decision for me to make, but I have to look at it broadly and ask myself, do some soul searching and ask myself … are we doing everything we can to protect our kids, and the answer for me at that point in time was no,” Scott said.
The opponents were not swayed. They argued the proposals were unconstitutional and would not accomplish the goal of school safety.
One of the opponents, Hardwick police Chief Aaron Cochran, went to the State House on Tuesday in uniform, representing the group Vermont Law Enforcement Against Gun Control.
“Our focus as law enforcement is on school safety,” Cochran said. “And unfortunately a lot of effort has been taken away from school safety and gone into this gun control debate.”
The measure, which was given preliminary approval on Friday, now has to be reconciled with a version of it that was first passed by the Senate.
Separately, Vermont lawmakers this week are expected to give final approval to legislation that would make it easier to take guns from suicidal people and perpetrators of domestic violence.
While nationwide the push for gun ownership restrictions was given a boost by the shooting last month at a Parkland, Florida, high school that killed 17, the Vermont debate was spurred by what officials described as a near-miss in Fair Haven. In that case, a friend of the teenager accused of plotting a shooting told police about him and he was arrested.
The case prompted Scott to call for gun restrictions.
So I can enlist in the military and die for my country but can't buy a gun. Why is that right? So I shouldn't be able to enlist!
ReplyDeleteMaybe I'm wrong, but I thought service personnel and veterans under 21 were exempt. You can't have a beer until you're 21 either, unless you're in the military, and on base.
Delete3:03 - Please post on facts or get the facts if you don't know them. Your FAKE posts confuses the issues.
DeleteStrange to see all of the orange outrage. The new gun regulations have nothing to do with hunters rights; "real" outdoors men understand the facts... no one wants to take their guns, PERIOD. The NRA is a junk political group, they do not care if you get a deer or not.
ReplyDeleteYou're wrong there are people who do want to take your guns away
DeleteNames of office holders or remotely credible candidates, or it isn't happening.
Delete12:29, The issue is not hunters (sic) rights. The issue is the clause within the 2nd amendment that reads, "... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." A right recently reaffirmed by the Supreme Court. Those in support of the second amendment wore hunter orange to be recognized by the press, which obviously worked well.
ReplyDeleteYou would do well to visit NRA's web site to familiarize yourself with their mission before reveling your profound ignorance. One of the many benefits of the NRA is gun safety. Their Eddie Eagle education program has resulted in an 80% reduction of accidental firearms death among children.
Make no mistake, there are Democratic representatives and senators in Montpelier that have openly declared their opposition to private gun ownership. This meaningless "safety" legislation is a giant step in that direction.
603 I have guns have had them all my life, I am not opposed to back ground checks, baning bumstocks and extended mags. Even if this legislation stops one idiot it is a success. The NRA has some good points but like the tea party crew they are out of control. To the dems are not out to take are hunting guns away.
DeleteI'm a believer in the Second Ammendment. I own guns. But let's face it, the NRA is a far-right organization dedicated to electing far-right politicians. Politicians with whom I disagree with on NEARLY EVERY ISSUE except the right to bear arms. Mostly crazy old coots that belong in nursing homes, and crazy young coots who follow the crazy old coots. What did you all expect anyway? Did you really think that right-wing nut-jobs shooting up schoolyards was going to go un-noticed? If you people on the fringe right can't police your own, someone else will do it for you! You know, some of us own guns to defend ourselves AGAINST YOU! You may think that's funny, but we're not laughing!
DeleteAnd the NRA is being used by the Russian government to destabilize America. It accepts funding from them to promulgate its message of fear and hate.
DeleteLeave it to Chuck to throw in the "eye roller"..lol
DeleteThe NRA gave Ajit Pai of the FCC a rifle to removing net neutrality. Why is the NRA involved in net neutrality?
DeleteFact check for the record: NONE of the Mass Shooters has been an NRA member.
DeleteWith regard to shooters being "right wing Nut Jobs"
Omar Mateen, the shooter who killed 49 people at a nightclub in Orlando, Florida, in 2016, was registered as a Democrat in 2006.
A friend of Aaron Alexis, who killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard in 2013, said in a CNN interview that the shooter was "more of a liberal type." There were no other reports of his political affiliation.
A friend of Aaron Alexis, who killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard in 2013, said in a CNN interview that the shooter was "more of a liberal type." There were no other reports of his political affiliation.
http://www.politifact.com/new-york/statements/2018/feb/23/claudia-tenney/do-many-mass-shooters-end-being-democrats-rep-tenn/
So you own guns and support the second amendment huh? Yet condemn the NRA. Please stop and research this for a moment. If not for the NRA your right to own any firearm for hunting or defense would parallel that of England or Australia. Countries in which private ownership of firearms are effectively banned.
ReplyDeleteGenerations of Americans have paid the ultimate price to forge and protect our freedoms. Do not be a fool and disregard how your right to own a firearm was secured. If you think the 55 year old, AR type firearm design has no sporting purpose, I'd like the opportunity help you work on your marksmanship skills at 300 yards, then on a coyote hunt.
I'm a veteran, DIPSTICK! Perfect score at BRM. Let ME show YOU how it's done! 300 yards? That's a joke! I'll bring my M1-A and see how you do at 1,000! (No, I won't!) I condemn idiots like you, with your mindless, fascist rhetoric, your tiki torches, and your phony patriotism. My ancestors FOUGHT the Nazis, and so will I.
DeleteI am a vet and do not need an ar15 to hit a target at 300 yards that's for sure.my family has done duty in the military foot the generations....
ReplyDeleteAs a distinguished veteran and marksman than you know well. The gas operated mechanism of an AR style firearm is functionally identical to the Benelli R1, Browning BAR, Remington 742, Ruger model 44, Savage MSR 10, Winchester model 100, and several others. ANY argument made against the AR can be applied to popular deer rifles you may likely own yourself. Now do you understand why the NRA is necessary to educate ignorant, liberal politicians?
DeleteGuess I do not know all that,just know how to shoot.by the way if you have a Vulcan I can repair it.
DeleteHow will this legislation prevent school shootings?
ReplyDeleteHow will this legislation prevent anything it is trying to prevent? How can they say when or where you purchased a Magazine larger than 10 rounds? How can they say when you sold your gun to your buddy or gave it to your child.
DeleteIts not going to ever prevent anything. All it does is create a false sense of security or the ignorant. It is just another layer of unenforceable laws that law abiding citizens have to muddle through and then have to pay more taxes for the enforcement of the unenforceable. Its the liberal way!
DeleteHeck, as a gun owner, I just sit back and laugh at these ridiculous laws. Let the libs think they won a good one.. it just shows how ignorant they are...
The problem, as I see it, is not the Second Ammendment; it's the First Ammendment. As long as extremist militant groups are allowed to call themselves "religions," or "community action" organizations, they will continue to prey on society at large. Designating them as domestic terror groups will go farther to prevent Parkland style shootings than banning assault weapons and large-cap magazines ever will. As with any other restrictions to our Constitution, the risk of the "slippery slope" is real, but something has to be done. Sending our kids off to school, and having them come home in body bags is unnacceptable. We, as a society, need to eliminate the threat at the source, that being the groups that believe in "Second Ammendment solutions" to political disagreements.
ReplyDeleteWhen is the last time an extremist militant group shot up a school. When was the last time one of these political disagreement ended in a second amendment solution? Your comments are greasing that slope, not only attacking the second amendment but the first as well. Such Propaganda.
Delete11:37 - What does "second amendment solution" mean? In your contexts, it sounds like murder and that you thinks it's okay. Do you feel like a tough guy because you have guns?
DeleteYour opinion of my context makes zero sense. Thanks.
DeleteFor deer hunting in Vermont a maximum of 6 shells are allowed in your rifle. Guns for other purposes can have a maximum of 10 or is it more?
DeleteI believe they amended it in the house to 15. That might have been handguns only though.
DeleteWow, 11:37! You almost had me stumped. Almost. There been MANY killings by far-right militant groups lately; the group known as Atomwaffen killed five people in the U.S. last year, just to name one! No mass school shootings, though. The last mass school shooting was committed by a Trump supporter, so that makes one! Wonderful thing, that "plausible deniability!" You can push all the right buttons on some wacked-out loser via Twitter, and when they snap, you can throw them under the bus! Then all you have to do is console the victims, and it's done; no responsibility whatsoever! And your supporters will all say "When was the last time....."
ReplyDeleteI felt dirty just googling that group. However I saw no mention of guns involved. To compare typical trump supporters to them and 17yr old in FL is bs .
ReplyDeleteOk, just what is a "typical Trump supporter?" Would you say that they are largely white, rural, blue collar, conservative, and nationalist? Many are on record as also being racist and anti-semitic. Guess what? That also describes the members of the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) in 1932. If this doesn't describe you personally, I must ask; what the hell are you doing "palling around" with Nazis?
DeleteTrump meets with Putin and the heads of the Arab states. Probably talking about health care for all.
DeleteYah..Trump says that auto makers can relax emission stds. Let our grandkids celebrate. Cough. Jog behind these cars get exhausted, jog in front, get tired.
DeleteNow what does that have to do with guns. It is all part of the GOP plan. Dumbness. You may be part of it.
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