Tuesday, February 19, 2013

East School up for sale

East School, a 1920 brick icon to generations of Springfield kids from the east side of town, is on the market, finally.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20130219/NEWS02/702199859/0/OPINION01

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  1. Lanyard Lansing2/19/13, 5:08 PM

    This would make a lovely half-way house for paroled prisoners with drug addictions. Perhaps we could have a group seek a special appropriation to help these individuals and set up a not for profit rehabilitation agency inside part of the building.

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    1. Aethelred the Unready2/19/13, 11:43 PM

      Are you serious, or was this said in jest?

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    2. Lanyard Lansing2/21/13, 11:43 PM

      Why would you think I was saying that in jest? Do you have a better idea Aethelred? What kind of name is that anyway?

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    3. Yeah Aethelred why would you suppose that Lanyard had a sense of humor? You find something funny about taxpayers demanding that we sell school buildings whose alternative use is most probably for subsidized housing? If we are going to go on a subsidized housing facilitation spree, we might as well go for broke with the parolees. Plus have some nice comfy office space there for the HCRS staffers to hang out and hold there conferences and such. Might even put a psychiatrist office in right there and a little pharmacy. Would make a lot of sense and surely would improve that little neighborhood that lost its center when they closed the school, give it a new iconic legacy it would.

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  2. No, no, if you made a place like this a half-way house how would the slum lords make a profit. No, its important to allow this building to slowly crumble into ruins. It will extend the ambience to this part of Springfield which has not had the benefit of the wonderful ambience presented by vacant buildings.

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    1. Of course you wouldn't want it to be a halfway house. Is a little too close to your "house" huh? Heck you could drop em off on the way home from working at the prison!

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    2. Aethelred the Unready2/19/13, 11:39 PM

      Hm, I wonder how they came up with that price. If it was based on an appraisal, I wonder what the highest and best use was?

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    3. Lanyard Lansing2/21/13, 11:46 PM

      Why shouldn't there be a half-way house there? I thought that was what the taxpayers wanted when they called for these buildings to be sold?

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    4. Well now Lanyard Lansing, maybe you have a point. If we just convert all these vacant school and industrial buildings into halfway houses we might be able to give the employment a little boost in this here town. Kind of reinvent the Town as a transition Mecca pretty much overseen by HCRS. Yeah, that has a nice resonance to it. Especially since HCRS doesn't prescribe drugs, that should clean up the drug problem completely, and eliminate the gangs. I wonder why HCRS didn't come up with that plan in the first place. Why could have solved a lot of headscratching by all those folks as to what to do with these buildings that the schools and the private industry discard like styrofoam cups and such. Have you considered running for the Selectboard, I think you would find yourself at home with their kind of thinking.

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  3. Bertie Fionie2/19/13, 6:12 PM

    Wuld be persuble to hab it to bee a shulter fer us wimen of priseners with childen to leve at, difficilt ter fiend plaz to leve wid the lundlerds checkin er backgrinds an sich any mure.

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    1. Aethelred the Unready2/19/13, 11:45 PM

      Now there is a thought, at least I think its a thought.

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  4. Aethelred the Unready2/19/13, 7:44 PM

    Is there any plan for this school? Or was it just dumped on the market for anyone to bid on?

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  5. Dear Mister 7:44,
    Perhaps you missed the vote many years ago. In essence: "Shall the voters allow the school board to sell to dispose the property"? Yes. fast forward three years and viola!!!! on the market for sale. Wanna buy a prime piece of real estate?

    Bet of you offered 75k for it, you would be the proud owner of it.

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    1. Aethelred the Unready2/19/13, 11:37 PM

      Well, I guess Yesman offered a dollar for it. Doesn't he own property on Union Street? This would fit in nicely with his portfolio I guess.

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  6. Yesman gets an exclusive listing and denies it's a conflict of interest. Please vote this self-serving jackwad off the board at the earliest opportunity. What is it with those who serve today? They eagerly feather their own nests and then deny that there's anything wrong with it.

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    1. Aethelred the Unready2/20/13, 12:44 AM

      Exclusive listing on East School?

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    2. I agree. It does seem like a conflict of interest.

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    3. What? You're going to wait for it to crumble? For thieves to steal the copper? Any real estate agent could have stepped forward. Dave Yesman is a realist and I'll vote for him again.

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    4. Were other real estate agents offered the property? I agree the could have stepped forward, but were they given the chance?

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    5. The town has been speaking about selling for years. It's no secret. It's called capitalism. Step forward and do business. Have you ever known a real estate not to jump on a property? It's in their DNA

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    6. Lanyard Lansing2/22/13, 1:21 AM

      Conflict of interest? Don't understand does he run half-way houses?

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    7. Yesman didn't have to step forward. Not only was he already on hand when it was brought up for discussion due to his official position, but he was also likely involved in all the preliminary preparations to put it on the docket. The "exclusive" listing will give him a piece of any sale. Just another vulture pecking at Springfield's bones from his official perch.

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  7. Does anyone know who owns the house on Union St that we, as taxpayers, are being asked to pay $239,000 for- so the teachers can have a place to park? Where have they parked all these years? Why is the East St school and 2 1/2 acres being sold for $150,000 and the house on Union St for $239,000? Something just doesn't seem right??? I think the town has 2 chances of having that amount approved...slim and none.

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    1. Hey Kate, you should really be better informed.

      The district is purchasing the the house for $94,000. The $239,000 is the total cost of the property and creation of additional parking. The house does not cost $239,000, that is the cost of the entire project.

      It is a shame that the responsibility of cleaning up suspected drug dens and neglected property falls on the shoulders of the school district, but as far as I am concerned whatever it takes to get this house demolished, the town and school system is better off with that house gone. Now, what can be done about the two dilapidated properties across the street.

      I think with uninformed residents like Kate, this town has two chances of ever improving...slim and none.

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    2. With the sale of East School and the purchase of the house on Union Street there is a possibility of a two prong attack on drug dens in Springfield. The first prong being eliminating one of the drug dens on Union Street, and the other relocating the drug dens to a new location supervised by HCRS.

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    3. I love it when the teachers jump on here take a defensive role. What other drug dens will the school district be cleaning up? Wall Street? Valley Street? My guess is just the one that is needed at Union Street. Don't break your elbow patting yourself on the back just yet.

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    4. I suggest they cleanup any drug den abutting any school property, the town government hasn't had any luck.

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    5. Kate, the ownership of the house on Union is public information. The town office can tell you.

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    6. Anonymous 12:46, HCRS does not prescribe drugs.

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    7. Who DOES own that building? I would venture out on a limb and say David Yesman or someone else on the boad has their hands in it.

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    8. Board....sorry.......I was shaking my head at the same time I was proof reading this

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    9. Confused and Broke2/20/13, 10:06 PM

      Isn't Yesman on the Selectboard, and this is the School Board that is proposing to buy the house? Having trouble following the logic of this thread.

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    10. In reply to Alpin @ 12:40 HCRS psychiatrists do indeed prescribe drugs.

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    11. Gosh, we just need to tear it down.

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    12. No, HCRS doesn't prescribe drugs. Whatever are you thinking.

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    13. Alpin Jack, you corporate shill -- HCRS is the doorkeeper to the psychiatrists who prescribe the drugs -- what rock have you been living under?

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    14. Confucius say HCRS don't prescribe pills and shots, psychiatrists do...or as they say guns don't kill people...or is it if it quacks like a duck its a squirrel...hm must go check my med plan...oh yes as Confucius was saying about flying pigs...

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    15. How can you dare to criticize HCRS, shame on you. It provides meaningful employment for so many in the Springfield area, and it is employment which is invulnerable to economic downturn as it perpetuates and expands its need. Why what would we be without its wonderful assistance in the realm of ex-prisoner assistance and aid rendered for remuneration with the Department of Corrections. Why the enormous good which it does this community is beyond being assailed. It has developed a revolving door market with our correctional facilities that is simply beyond our wildest capitalist dreams.

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    16. Why are you attacking HCRS on this thread?

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    17. Lanyard Lansing2/21/13, 11:41 PM

      Is HCRS the not-for-profit that is dominant in getting contracts from the Department of Corrections for rehabilitation of ex-prisoners with substance abuse problems? Or is that some other group?

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    18. Lanyard Lansing, yes HCRS is the dominant entity regarding that field.

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    19. And a mighty fine job that HCRS does, why it has done such a fine job in that field that its clientele is just exploding. They have been bringing in employment and servicing this community with pure excellence. Why you never hear a single complaint about how they are rehabilitating our fine citizens who went temporarily off the rails. Its a testament to ingenuity how they have expanded their market and provided more and more employment opportunities to so many. Why what was it that Churchill said never has so little been done by so many...no wait that isn't quite right. MARTHA WHAT DID YOU DO WITH MY MED PLAN...

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  8. "Anonymous"12:41
    $94,000 or $239,000 still doesn't answer my initial questions. Who owns the property and where have the teachers been parking all these years? In response to your statement, "the responsibility of cleaning up suspected drug dens....falls on the shoulders of the school district" . You ARE kidding, right? Too quote you , Hey,"ANONYMOUS" you should really be better informed!
    And thank you BLOG POLICE 12:51 for pointing out the other places in town and probably right under Amonymous 12:41's nose where the school district could start. If they can't even walk from their cars to their place of employment without whining...how are they going to chase down the criminal element?

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    1. "kate" is that your "real" name, I have my doubts.



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    2. Kate, read this a couple times trying to make sense of it. Obviously, the school system is trying to clean up part of the drug den problem on Union Street by buying the property. The parking lot is simply one way of doing it. Unfortunately, the Town Government is the body which should be condemning and cleaning up these drug sanctuaries, and they will need to tackle the house directly across the street. But the school is trying to do its part in reducing, at least to some extent, the drug slums directly across the street from their active schools. They don't have a school on Wall Street and Valley Street, so relying on the school system to participate in the clean-up of those drug nests cannot legitimately be shouldered by them.

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    3. Kate, the school was re-built, remember? Parking completely changed when they did the rebuild eliminating places to park. C'mon go back in the memory bank and think before typing!

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    4. Confused and Broke2/20/13, 10:12 PM

      Kate are you trying to sound like you are totally clueless, or does it just come natural. Why would we expect teachers to run down criminals? And what does the existence of drug dens elsewhere in Town have to do with drug dens immediately in front of a school. Do you shoot and aim later?

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    5. Lanyard Lansing2/21/13, 11:47 PM

      What criminal element?

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    6. Oh its that nasty epithet that they throw around in derogation of the fine upstanding capitalist entrepeneurs we have in this Town who peddle their wares on Union and Wall Street.

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  9. East School would make a wonderful fire fighting training facility. They could practice various types of rescues and fire control solutions. After they eventually they burn it to the ground, probably occurring during the first response, they could focus on Park Street next.

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    1. Ahh yes, another know it all heard from, no mention of the last 3 fires that were not losses, and actually pretty damn good stops. But those aren't newsworthy so no one hears about them. Hey, did't I see your application for onlooker?

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    2. The SFD is a joke. Except during parades!!!

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    3. Sounds like you couldn't make the cut

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    4. 8:29,let me guess,if the fire department is such a joke,i bet you won't call them if your house is ever on fire or you need a ambulance

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  10. Anonymous 1:38pm
    Kate is my real, honest to goodness, from birth, always was-always will be name.
    I choose not to address problems as Anonymous. It just seems like the cowards way out.

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    1. Fine, my name is Frank, from this point forward you will know me as Frank, that way, I wont be anonymous.

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    2. Glad we got that all straightened out and have enlightened everyone, my name ain't Boss that's just what everyone calls me, beats bein called a Hogg all the time.

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  11. hahah so you use your first name, one of the more common first names at that... hilarious!

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  12. No, I don't remember when the school was rebuilt. Not everyone has lived in Springfield their whole life.

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    1. Aethelred the Unready2/21/13, 9:45 AM

      Kate, the school was rebuilt just a few years ago, minimal inquiry would have clued you in to the fact that the Town had a raging debate over decades about upgrading the elementary school facilities, and just a few years ago that resulted in the expansion and redesign of Union and Elm Hill.

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